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Mike Anderson's coaching philosophy does not work

Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:20 pm
We all want to recapture the glory days from when Mike was an assistant under Nolan but there are a lot of differences between then and now:

1) The elimination of hand checking and the 5 second violation. Referees call games much tighter now which makes it nearly impossible to trap or play defense like we did under Nolan.

2) Teams are better at breaking the press and/or we are worse at pressing. This leads to few turnovers forced and far too many wide open 3s or layups.

3) Mike's flawed coaching philosophy is to win by shooting more times than your opponent. It doesn't matter if we take twice as many shots if ours are low percentage and there's are high percentage.

4) Mike's laid back attitude is in stark contrast with Nolan. I remember Anderson being the one to hold Nolan back from going after the refs. He was always the calm one. And sometimes we need someone to get in a ref or player's arse and let them know he's not happy with how things are going.

5) There are so many TV timeouts that negate any advantage in conditioning. We used to run teams to death and they would collapse late in the game. Now teams are deep enough and get enough breaks that this doesn't happen very often.

And I don't know the root cause of this problem but our teams have consistently let the other team go on a big run to start games.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:30 pm to
The Mizzou game made me a little numb but I don't think I really understand how pathetic and embarrassing this performance at home was tonight. This is suppose to be one of those "bounce back" games and was the complete opposite.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32928 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

The Mizzou game made me a little numb but I don't think I really understand how pathetic and embarrassing this performance at home was tonight. This is suppose to be one of those "bounce back" games and was the complete opposite.


Icing on Mike's cake will be a loss to LSU
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15745 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:04 pm to
Still works for Pitino
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24259 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:24 pm to
That man can coach and has his team play defense
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:27 pm to
Yeah.

I keep seeing this group think, but have yet to see an analysis proving their thoughts.

Mikes teams do not use the press like Nolan did, his teams rarely press on the road especially compared to Nolan's.

The need for an "Xs and Os" coach is often stated as the problem, yet no examples of who the Xs and Os genius are in the college basketball. Usually these same people have trouble differentiating between and offense based on sets and a true offense.

Heath was an Xs and Os coach, he had a play book with like 95 set plays in it, his teams never could fully grasp his play book.

Pel wasn't and Xs and Os coach and couldn't get his team to be able to run the flex offense which is the closest thing seen that resembled an offense during his time here, the flex is the easiest offense to teach and execute... outside of the dribble drive.

Mike uses the motion offense primarily with situational sets. The offense is by design purely improv as just about every screen has at least 3 options that can be used off the screen while the man setting the screen has just as many options post screen.

Just an observation.

Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22713 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:54 pm to
Mike's teams are losing game that they should not in year 6.

Just an observation...
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
7823 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Mike Anderson's coaching philosophy does not work


He has a coaching philosophy?
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24259 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:32 pm to
Tire them out... Energy!
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19003 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:49 pm to
His philosophy is we do what we do, the problem is nobody know what the heck we do.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:16 pm to
It is not the fans' jobs to find replacement coaches. We, I'm assuming, all have better/more important things to do when not working. But we CAN make observations about things we see that are incompatible with winning basketball...like consistently have a piss-poor pick and roll defense and consistently giving up wide open shots to the opposing team.

It'd be one thing if MA's offenses were so good that a questionable defensive philosophy in the half court could be overcome...but that's not even close to being the case.

I think we do have better talent than when he got here. And the APR is up. And all of that jazz, which is nice. But what good is having talent when you don't put it in a position to succeed?

Our next bball coach might be AIDS. But with the money we're paying/capable of paying, there's no excuse for us to not be able to lure a premier basketball coach to Fayetteville. It's one of the best fricking places in the country to live and the money is great. The facilities are great. The fans are great.

Something tells me there are more capable coaches in 2017 than there have ever been. Especially with the globalization of the game. There's no reason we should settle for someone that's not extremely well-rounded. And DAMN SURE not settle for someone who includes "free lance" in his defensive vocabulary.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:43 am to
Mike was a premier coach at the time of his hire, he had turned down several power 5 jobs to stay at Mizzou, his pay reflects the fair market value for his services. You always seems to be hung up on his pay, sorry he makes more than you ever will.

Tell me who these Xs and Os genius coaches are, until you do then your rhetoric for someone who actually believes your rubbish, not asking if they would or would not leave their current job to coach at Arkansas. I'm asking for some substance to be put behind your drivel. You've been spewing the same none sense for years on this board the more successful Mike has been the more you have spewed and celebrated the losses, your problem with him is a personal problem you're going to have to deal with some day...
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132194 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:56 am to
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This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 2:50 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29448 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Tell me who these Xs and Os genius coaches are,

There's at least 64 of them every year.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:27 am to
quote:

sorry he makes more than you ever will


Really? The worst line in this thread
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:45 am to
There's probably 150 coaches who wouldn't lose to mizzou with the talent we've got and im not exaggerating
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35805 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:03 am to
yep, he gotta go

apparently Jim Lindsey has given Wally permission to go ahead and start writing critical assessments
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:04 am to
MA makes more money than 99.5% of the worldwide population. So, wow. You showed me. Return on investment is one way to gauge relative success. I've learned that making well under 2.5MM, but still being pretty successful. Of course, none of this changes the FACT that he's not a top 25 coach.

And, Hmmm, I continue to say the same shite every year about his frickING PHILOSOPHY? REGARDLESS of what our record is? It's almost like I don't have a PERSONAL frickING PROBLEM WITH MIKE ANDERSON, but his system. It's almost like people who AREN'T close with him can not give a shite how nice a guy he is and simply point to the 2 most glaring weaknesses. But above all, it's the half court defense, stupid.

Edit: Do us all a favor, Dale. Spell out exactly what makes MA a premier coach in 2017. Which elememts of his philosophy are championship attributes... Say if we just got the right players in.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32928 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 11:02 am to
27-25 Feb-March is Mike's record here at Arkansas. That's not worth 2.5 million a year.


That's not a top 25 coaching record.

I don't see how anybody can see improvement with another recruiting class or two without a change in coaching philosophy.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

I don't see how anybody can see improvement with another recruiting class or two without a change in coaching philosophy.


And just to clarify MY POSITION: I would have a lot more confidence in MA if he simply recognized when things weren't working. No one's saying, "Never press." No one's saying, "Never hedge, then double, on a pick and roll." But those should be change-ups, not status quo (particularly around PnRs). Dare a team to beat you by making pull-up 3's instead of kick-out 3's. In the NBA, most of the time, you can't go under the pick because it'll give the ball handler a wide open pull-up 3 and those guys are almost always great/competent shooters. But in college? Sure - there are definitely some great shooters. But it's not anywhere NEAR as consistent as a kick-out 3/catch and shoot. Look at Dusty. He's a much more deadly shooter on a catch and shoot than pull-up situation.

That's a little thing. They know how to do it. They just, seemingly, don't (every time I watch anyway). But they know how and it would be easy to implement.

I'd LOVE to see our offense actually utilize player movement and set effective screens. And, obviously, use the screens appropriately. We still don't get the ball into the middle of a zone defense, either.

None of those things are items that can't be taught. And rebounding can certainly be reinforced if you stop rewarding guys with PT if they aren't boxing out.

Little things would add up to a world of good. Then I wouldn't care if MA stayed on as coach, because he would have demonstrated an ability to adapt.
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