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Is Little Rock a shithole or a nice clean city?

Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:59 pm
thread from the OT

some outsiders opinions on our capital.

also the offseason wouldn't be complete without a thread like this
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I have family in West Little Rock and love the area. The Chenal area is gorgeous. Once you head into NLR and cross the river though, different story. I would live there in a heartbeat. Affordable COL and it may only be second to LA in terms of outdoorsman's paradise in the south. You're also within 6 hours of Dallas, OKC, Tulsa, KC, STL, Memphis, Nashville, BR/NOLA.

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Little Rock has come a long way. I was there 2 weeks ago for a conference and got to see more of the city than I've seen in probably a decade. I was kind of impressed.

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I have a friend who lives there and have visited several times. I've always like it. Very nice place. Fayetteville is also a really nice place.

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both

like every city in the South

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There are so many cool little spots on River Market Ave and in that area down by the capital bldg that used to be a war zone 20+ years ago.

In some ways, it reminded me a lot of the recent Cleveland art and restaurant Renaissance. There are 15-20 little places that should make an appearance on like a food network show or something. And we did a lot of walking in small groups all over that area and I always felt pretty safe. Again, it's a complete 180 from what I experienced in the early 2000's and mid to late 90's.

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Lived here a year so far for school. First thought, was to graduate and gtfo and move to Texas, Tennessee, or North Carolina.

I now love it. I live about a mile from the Chenal Valley area and its pretty much Mandeville with a mountainy terrain. Wouldn't mind staying here after. West Little rock is beautiful and super clean.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:11 pm to
shite hole. WMS is prime example
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:21 pm to


going right for the jugular
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:31 pm to
Can't say they're wrong about the improvement. I almost feel safe driving through Jacksonville and Levy at night these days.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:16 pm to
It's both just like any metro. Having lived in both nwa and lr (because I know it's going there), for a considerable amount of time, I can tell you that nwa and central Arkansas have positives and negatives. Little Rock's micro brew scene is insane right now; they're simply brewing better beer. Also in LR, your dollar will go twice as far renting. In NWA, crime is an afterthought. Plus it's very walkable and prettier in my opinion.

I prefer NWA, but the seeming protectionism of an identity they've obviously co-opted from Austin is boggling to me.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:35 pm to
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the seeming protectionism of an identity they've obviously co-opted from Austin is boggling to me


I don't think it's an identity NWA has "co-opted" necessarily. It's just the closest thing anybody here will tolerate being compared to. There's a lot to dislike about Austin, anyway...

Fayetteville/NWA gets mentioned alongside Austin a lot, and not necessarily by people who live here. Both are semi-southern, new-money, big-state-college having metros. Both are booming and attracting a lot of young people.

The comparisons are actually valid, even before you count things like karst/hill topography, outdoor recreation, cultural activities, big pretty, not-muddy lake, etc.

Austin is the "hip" city to move to, at least within 1000 miles. It makes sense that people here would enjoy the comparison.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:39 pm to
The bad parts of Little Rock are so much worse then NW Arkansas. Right now.

The good parts are on level with what you can find up here.

I would say its a buy area. There is a lot of good in Little Rock that with careful investment could turn out to be a big winner.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:48 pm to
Like most cities, depends on what part you are talking about.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:51 pm to
Like any large city of it's size and bigger, it has a lot of both. Just have to know which is where.
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:51 pm to
I think Little Rock has a lot going for it. Most people from outside of Arkansas are surprised at that.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:51 pm to
I think Little Rock has a lot going for it. Most people from outside of Arkansas are surprised at that.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:52 pm to
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I would say its a buy area.


Definitely.

Number, I can see what you're saying. What's really shocking to me is the average 2-1 is about 1200 a month right now. Rent alone is going to cause Fayetteville to be less livable town. Rent doesn't have to be that high but it's tough to build because the local government has their mitts in everything it seems.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:59 pm to
Rents are higher in Bentonville.

I'd rather the market stay tight than get flooded, but I own a house already.

The problem with too many rentals is that landlords often live somewhere else, and they'll fill them with Section 8 if they have to.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:18 pm to
I have purchasing power but it's not a buyer's market. The rents are raising and capacity is maxed but the salaries aren't keeping up. The potential result is people leaving the area for the next NWA. If that happens, and the market is flooded with vacancy, it will be much worse for property owners.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:56 pm to
I've said it before and I'll say it again-I like Little Rock and NWA having lived in both places (Fayetteville in college and LR/NLR in more recent years). NWA has come a long way and it's no longer just about the You of A but is truly a growing metro area with so much to offer. Little Rock, with its westward expansion over many years, also has much to offer. I don't worry too much about the bad places because I don't often go there (at least not at night) and in my line of work I often have to visit the worst places (not all in LR though) and deal with some of the worst people so I'm somewhat immune to it. Granted, I'm not going jogging in the early morning hours in the vicinity of 18th & Pine as part of some social experiment, but just a little common sense goes a long way when you travel about the city.

And even the City of Colleges, where this troll (?) post originates, has really grown into a neat place with lots to offer, annoying roundabouts notwithstanding. Hey, the new courthouse is pretty nice and I like the baseball fields, too.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:57 pm to
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Coach Anderson recently went to the Alotian Club


Really need to find a way in there
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:02 pm to
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Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:08 pm to
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It's funny you said that, because I looked at Google maps to see if it was entirely fenced in or if they used the woods as a buffer. . .it looks like they did a pretty good job


Yes, lived outside of little rock for a few years and I passed that place everyday. At first it looked like some government owned land with the way it was protected. Very hard to get into and quite a few people with money fly in for the day to play that course. Need to get a good hook up somewhere.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 6:09 pm
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