Fatass Bert is going into year 5

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it's disheartening to watch a team in the playoffs who most the country doesn't know exis

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Come on now. They won a NC 25 years ago and have the third most appearances in the Rose Bowl. It's not like he took Oregon State to the playoffs.

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Come on now. They won a NC 25 years ago

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its not like Mike Anderson took over Oregon State

Wish Arkansas could trade conferences with Washington

I'm going to list the coaches who won the last 20 national championships (will be slightly more than 20 titles due to split awards). I want you to point out just which ones you consider as "great" coaches. Now think about how many other coaches will NEVER win a national title, yet some of these jackasses did.



Nick Saban - 5 times
Urban Meyer - 3 times
Pete Carroll - 2 times
Mack Brown - 1 time
Gene Chizik - 1 time
Jimbo Fisher - 1 time
Les Miles - 1 time
Jim Tressel - 1 time
Larry Coker - 1 time
Bob Stoops - 1 time
Bobby Bowden - 1 time
Phillip Fulmer - 1 time
Lloyd Carr - 1 time
Steve Spurrier - 1 time
Tom Osborne - 1 time



Now, I'll list the ones who are currently college football head coaches:

Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Jimbo Fisher
Bob Stoops


Now, a comment on the stratification of college football:


The last 5 1st time winners of national titles:


Florida : 1996
Florida State: 1993
Colorado : 1990
BYU: 1984
Miami: 1983


It's interesting to note that 3 of the 5 teams are from Florida, a state which rapidly grew during the period. It's also interesting to note that there have been ZERO new national title winners since the BCS/Playoff format has been adopted.


Compare this to 1st time winners in NCAA basketball:

Florida: 2006
Syracuse: 2003
Maryland: 2002
Uconn: 1999
Arizona: 1997

That's 5 new winners in the past 20 years.

I'm just saying. When I think college football, Washington doesn't even enter my mind.

Per College FB data warehouse, Arkansas is #23 all time; TAMU is 20, Washington is 21, Pitt is 22, Stanford is 24. Our ranks are dragged down by the late 19th and early 20th and 21st century

CFBDW is an imperfect system, just as polls are. But the grouping is pretty tight Around us.

Washington is not a markedly superior program to Arkansas. Neither is TAMU or Stanford or Pitt. Yet many of us willingly accept TAMU or Stanford or now even Washington having higher expectations than we should. I disagree

The above programs are solid second-tier. If we decide to be serious about winning, we can get close to a Natty once or twice in a decade, which is good enough imo.

But in the last 10 years or so, FB has gotten much much more difficult to win, and I don't see that we have the will to really try to compete in this game.

This is nothing more than complacency and fear of failure masked in a layer "we really cant do better than this" defeatism

Are you happy because you sing, or do you sing because you are happy?

John L, or 10 years of Hootie, or choosing Heath over Bill Self, or choosing BB over Gundy sure as hell doesn't look like "trying" to me.

it looks inept.

Jeez, Baylor is now a men's BKB power, and was a new FB power until a surprise disaster.

Baylor has higher expectations than Arkansas.

I guess that is the SEC's fault too.

Do you have a real source saying that we turned down Gundy over Bielema in 2012?


Also, to avoid any revisionist history, the stat lines between Gundy and Bielema in 2012 was this:

BB: .739 winning percentage, 3 conference championships, 3 BCS bowls, 4 10+ win seasons

MG: .657 winning percentage, 1 conference championship, 1 BCS bowl, 2 10+ win seasons


Bielema led teams that had a far more impressive 7 year resume than Gundy did. And that's just wins/losses/champioships type stuff. Wisconsin also put more players in the NFL and won a whole lot of awards and All-Americans.

Bielema has not worked out here. But you can't say, "Hiring someone who had 3 championships, was always a BCS contender, and had a .739 winning % is proof positive we weren't committed to winning because we should have hired the guy with worse stats from a worse/equal conference. That would have proven we were committed to winning."