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Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:34 pm
I understand that he's not an elite QB, and I've heard the excuses over and over again that we were weak at the WR position.

Was it Chaney's shitty play calling in the 2nd half of ballgames or is it BA's inability to go through his progressions to find the open man in the 4th qtr.

I like the kid but, can he transform himself from game manager to play maker when it counts.

I believe that the success of this season (6-6 to 10-2) rides on BA's capability to execute the plays late in games.

5th year senior Brandon Allen, it's time to rise up and show Hog fans what you can do.


Thoughts?


WPS!
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:43 pm to
I think it was partly Chaney's playcalling and partly due to the fact that BA hasn't had a "real" QB coach since Petrino went over the handlebars.

Chaney was a DL in college and has gone back and forth between coaching OL, TEs and WRs in his career, and QB was definitely not his strong point.

I'm extremely optimistic that he'll take that next step because he has a true QB coach -- one who played the position -- and will have a better playcaller allowing our offense to get in a better situational flow.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:45 pm
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25326 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:46 pm to
I think he get's a bad rap IMO. I agree he's not an "Elite" QB but I think he'll have his best year as he should.

The OL is better
The TE's are pretty much the same as last year
RB's take a hit, but will use them more
WR's I think will be better
Enos has a style that fits this team better

Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8486 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:52 pm to
He needs to learn how to stay poised. He gets rattled when things aren't going well.

I would actually like him see him win a game that we will be trailing. He didn't do it last year in the SEC.

Just be a man and make smart decisions. Don't pussy foot.

This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2208 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 7:30 pm to
There are no excuses left.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132141 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Chaney's shitty play calling 

Every pass play was an out.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132141 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:08 pm to
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ArHog

Get a new doc.

Prayers sent.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42343 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:31 pm to
quote:


Was it Chaney's shitty play calling in the 2nd half of ballgames or is it BA's inability to go through his progressions to find the open man in the 4th qtr.


It was manly Chaney's play calling, or Chaney's plays.

His plays are very vertical in nature requiring a big arm and an oline that can hold off the pass rush (which is quite a rush in obvious passing situations).

Same problem Tennessee has with him with Bray at QB (who had a big arm).

Its as simple as not adapting to your personnel instead trying to force your personnel to adapt to you, which in this case means asking them to do the things they are not fully capable of.

I can't remember the exact game, but BA was allowed to dink and dunk, crossing routes were called, etc and he marched the team right down the field that series, of course Chaney saw it working and didn't like it.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42343 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:32 pm to
quote:


I think it was partly Chaney's playcalling and partly due to the fact that BA hasn't had a "real" QB coach since Petrino went over the handlebars.


Saying Petrino is a "real" QB coach would be like saying June Jones is a "real" QB coach.

Its the system not the coaching, classic example is the shoddy mechanicals and footwork that a Petrino QB has his freshmen year still being present their senior year.
Posted by Hogssmellgood
Hog in Vol land
Member since Nov 2012
2105 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:47 pm to
And, the ULM and Alabama games in 2012 did a number on his confidence
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 9:03 pm to
I think early on the pressure of winning a SEC game and shutting up his critics (including me) got to him. Once he got that 1st SEC win under his belt he seemed like he relaxed a lot and was a much different QB.

I expect him to be much more dependable this year and settle right in from the beginning.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29445 posts
Posted on 9/3/15 at 9:46 pm to
He's not elite but what can you expect after that shite-show a few years ago? He could have mailed it in after all he's been through but he stuck it out. I think Enos will help our passing game tremendously. All the QBs were surprised at how much he works with them. Apparently Chaney barely worked with the QBs.

He has the potential to be really good this year. I've seen flashes of great passing ability last year but he's been inconsistent. But that describes most of the QBs in the SEC. I'm anxious to see what he can do with a decent OC and some better WRs.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1818 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:47 am to
Terrible play calling. We only ran out of the gun a handful of times all year. Down 7 in the 4th and Chaney would have us throw 12 straight out of the gun. My wife who only this year figured out how to get a 1st down was watching one game and could tell we were about to pass again. Add to the mix there were games that BA should have been pulled due to injury and of course he would look bad.

He is never going to be all world but I expect much better this year.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Saying Petrino is a "real" QB coach would be like saying June Jones is a "real" QB coach.

Its the system not the coaching, classic example is the shoddy mechanicals and footwork that a Petrino QB has his freshmen year still being present their senior year.


Meh, he was still teaching read progressions, which is something sorely lacking with Fredo Petrino and Chaney heading up the offense.

With PP, all we had was that stupid drag outlet with Cobi or Gragg that teams could sniff from a mile away in 2012. With Chaney, if the first option wasn't open, the M.O. was "frick it, scramble for your life and/or throw it into the 5th row." For a few games last year, a guy in section 105 was our leading receiver. Additionally, like someone stated above, Chaney did a horrendous job of tailoring his offense and his playcalling to the identity and talent of our team, as evidenced by the continued reliance on deep balls despite the fact that our line isn't built to pass protect for a long drops and holding the pocket.

I'm optimistic that BA will be better because last year should be a confidence builder, and because he's going to be under the tutelage of an actual QB coach as opposed to a nepotistic empty salary and a former OL/TE coach. Everywhere he's been, Enos has coached QBs.

Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Terrible play calling. We only ran out of the gun a handful of times all year. Down 7 in the 4th and Chaney would have us throw 12 straight out of the gun. My wife who only this year figured out how to get a 1st down was watching one game and could tell we were about to pass again. Add to the mix there were games that BA should have been pulled due to injury and of course he would look bad.



There were quite a few times last year when my wife, who knows very little about football, would even say "why the frick are we passing again?!"
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:41 am to
I think our running game failed in the 2nd half of tight SEC games last year more than we like to admit. Some of the those pass calls were after getting stuffed at the line on 1st and 2nd down.

BA has the tools and has progressed continuously, just needs to stay healthy. At least we have a 2nd string QB now if he doesn't.

BA has yet to succeed in pressure situations late in games in the 2 or 3 opportunities he had last year. I think this year will be different because of Enos and because of BA just being a year more experienced and stronger and a more experienced/talented supporting cast.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:45 am to
Saw a QB ranking this morning from some nobody reporter and he had BA ranked 40th nationally, but I noticed he had the N.Carolina QB ranked 13th and that dude had a worse game against USCe last night than any game I've ever seen BA play when healthy so these preseason polls, rankings, etc don't mean anything.

I predict BA to have us all feeling optimistic after tomorrow's game.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 10:46 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29445 posts
Posted on 9/5/15 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

I predict BA to have us all feeling optimistic after tomorrow's game.


Called it!
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32869 posts
Posted on 9/5/15 at 8:31 pm to
ESPN Stats & Info ?@ESPNStatsInfo 30m30 minutes ago
ARK’s Brandon Allen (14-of-18, 308 yds, 4 TD): 99.6 QBR, 4th-best one-game QBR by SEC player (15th-highest by ANY FBS QB) in last 10 seasons

Quality start for BA albeit we were playing UTEP.

I don't think BA really understands how fast Dominique is.



Posted by ryanexsus
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
795 posts
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:04 am to
I don't agree with any that said Brandon Allen isn't elite. Because he absolutely fricking is right now.
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