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Bert is a master at pointing to his past success to try and cover up for his current failu
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:11 am
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:11 am
Today in his pc he kept pointing back to that 2015 season. Trying to say this team will turn it around like that one.
Well that is a load of shite. That team was miles better than this one. That team showed it had a good offense early in the season, and was much more physical on both sides of the ball. The defense was awful against the pass, but was like #2 in the conference against the run as far as yardage.
Here are some differences. The 2015 team had a NFL qb. That lead the country in qbr, and is still a top 10 all time qbr. This team does not have anything close. It also had at one point 2 NFL running backs, and a freshman in RW3 who would have been one. This team has talented backs who can't run anywhere because of this next difference.
The 2015 team had 4 NFL linemen on it. This team has 1, and 1 who has the physical tools to be one, but was a DT 2 seasons ago, and still has growing pains here and there. The rest of the line is a hodge podge of shite, and and bert's bacon drippings off his chin.
The 2015 team had the best TE in the country who will be a future pro bowl player, and possibly HOF. With a back up who is also on a NFL roster. This team has a great blocker who is slow as shite, and a bunch of other guys who have talent but can't put it all together just yet.
The 2015 team had at one point 3-4 NFL roster WR's in drew Morgan, keon, Hollister (is on a roster I believe for ST, or practice roster), and Dominique reed (who if he wasn't lazy as shite would have made an NFL roster) this team has 1 guy I can point to who for sure will go to the NFL and he finally just got on the field in Martin. Some of the other guys have talent, but they are young do not run crisp enough routes to get open consistently enough.
Defensively we are just too soft and do not have good enough players up front. 2015 atleast had wise and Ledbetter. It also had Ellis who for all his faults has gotten atleast on an NFL practice squad. This group just has sosa who cannot get free because he had no one to pull the focus off of him. There is some young talent across the board behind the trenches on defense, but the D line is just too soft, and doesn't have the guys to really make this defense any good.
So fat frick can keep pointing back to a team he under achieved with to try and say the best has yet to come for this team. That they will turn it around like that year, but there is nothing in common with those teams. All of the talent on this team is too young and inexperienced to do what that 2015 team did. I just do not see how this team will pull off many wins from here. Unless the line starts playing world's better on both sides and the WR's grow up in a hurry.
Well that is a load of shite. That team was miles better than this one. That team showed it had a good offense early in the season, and was much more physical on both sides of the ball. The defense was awful against the pass, but was like #2 in the conference against the run as far as yardage.
Here are some differences. The 2015 team had a NFL qb. That lead the country in qbr, and is still a top 10 all time qbr. This team does not have anything close. It also had at one point 2 NFL running backs, and a freshman in RW3 who would have been one. This team has talented backs who can't run anywhere because of this next difference.
The 2015 team had 4 NFL linemen on it. This team has 1, and 1 who has the physical tools to be one, but was a DT 2 seasons ago, and still has growing pains here and there. The rest of the line is a hodge podge of shite, and and bert's bacon drippings off his chin.
The 2015 team had the best TE in the country who will be a future pro bowl player, and possibly HOF. With a back up who is also on a NFL roster. This team has a great blocker who is slow as shite, and a bunch of other guys who have talent but can't put it all together just yet.
The 2015 team had at one point 3-4 NFL roster WR's in drew Morgan, keon, Hollister (is on a roster I believe for ST, or practice roster), and Dominique reed (who if he wasn't lazy as shite would have made an NFL roster) this team has 1 guy I can point to who for sure will go to the NFL and he finally just got on the field in Martin. Some of the other guys have talent, but they are young do not run crisp enough routes to get open consistently enough.
Defensively we are just too soft and do not have good enough players up front. 2015 atleast had wise and Ledbetter. It also had Ellis who for all his faults has gotten atleast on an NFL practice squad. This group just has sosa who cannot get free because he had no one to pull the focus off of him. There is some young talent across the board behind the trenches on defense, but the D line is just too soft, and doesn't have the guys to really make this defense any good.
So fat frick can keep pointing back to a team he under achieved with to try and say the best has yet to come for this team. That they will turn it around like that year, but there is nothing in common with those teams. All of the talent on this team is too young and inexperienced to do what that 2015 team did. I just do not see how this team will pull off many wins from here. Unless the line starts playing world's better on both sides and the WR's grow up in a hurry.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 6:23 pm
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:23 am to russellvillehog
And where did that "success" get us? Memphis, TN
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:39 am to The Sultan of Swine
I think Hawgeye pointed this out in another thread - seems like Bert has no understanding of the history of the program. It's like he thinks we're akin to Texas Tech or something.
Pointing to a Liberty bowl season as success affirms this. Nutt was forced out after an 8 win regular season, beating the #1 team, and a cotton bowl berth. Obviously there were off the field factors but if Bert thinks a 7-8 win season now and then is enough to appease everyone, he's very mistaken.
Pointing to a Liberty bowl season as success affirms this. Nutt was forced out after an 8 win regular season, beating the #1 team, and a cotton bowl berth. Obviously there were off the field factors but if Bert thinks a 7-8 win season now and then is enough to appease everyone, he's very mistaken.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:56 am to russellvillehog
His schtick is definitely getting old. His reluctance to change things is really the most frustrating thing for me. After the TCU game when Allen was getting killed, I would have adjusted the O line and tried to find something that worked. Not wait another two games and a quarterback injury later to finally do something.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:37 am to Hogwarts
He is the master of the buffet and all things gravy.
You could cover your entire thanksgiving with the amount of gravy in that neck.
You could cover your entire thanksgiving with the amount of gravy in that neck.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:18 am to The Sultan of Swine
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I think Hawgeye pointed this out in another thread - seems like Bert has no understanding of the history of the program. It's like he thinks we're akin to Texas Tech or something.
When he's marketing himself for his next job, he's going to say things like "it's almost impossible to win there," and "fans have unrealistic expectations." He's going to completely ignore that every coach has won more here than he has.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:20 am to russellvillehog
As you alluded to, the fact that the 2015 team was 2-4 at one point is an indictment upon his coaching ability.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:21 am to Arkansasrazorback
Well no shite.
What else would he say?
What else would he say?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:24 am to STLhog
Something similar to what Ed Orgeron said while promoting himself as a candidate for the LSU job?
"I made a lot of mistakes at Ole Miss, but I've learned from those and am a much better coach."
"I made a lot of mistakes at Ole Miss, but I've learned from those and am a much better coach."
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:02 pm to Arkansasrazorback
He will go crawling back to some shite Big 10 West school (or MAC school if he keeps up his current win rate) and talk massive shite on Arkansas and its fans just as y'all have pointed out.
I honestly still don't think he understands the fanbase or the people of the state or the history of the program... Case in point being his "affinity" for calling and treating LR games like road games.
For 50 years, every team embraced those games and the coaches loved playing there. Just look at Leach's comments from a few weeks ago about how loud LR was.
I also don't think Bert had any knowledge of just who or how important Frank was to southern football and the state. He clearly had no idea probably even who he was when he got here and seemingly didn't understand the true nature of the state and just how large of a figure Frank was.
I'm not some Drive time caller who only wants an Arkansas native or alum to be the next coach... We've been done before, but I do want someone who actually knows the conference or the region, preferably someone who has coached in the league or a close by league before... No matter what their level and understands what it takes to compete.
I honestly still don't think he understands the fanbase or the people of the state or the history of the program... Case in point being his "affinity" for calling and treating LR games like road games.
For 50 years, every team embraced those games and the coaches loved playing there. Just look at Leach's comments from a few weeks ago about how loud LR was.
I also don't think Bert had any knowledge of just who or how important Frank was to southern football and the state. He clearly had no idea probably even who he was when he got here and seemingly didn't understand the true nature of the state and just how large of a figure Frank was.
I'm not some Drive time caller who only wants an Arkansas native or alum to be the next coach... We've been done before, but I do want someone who actually knows the conference or the region, preferably someone who has coached in the league or a close by league before... No matter what their level and understands what it takes to compete.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:12 pm to Jack Ruby
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I'm not some Drive time caller who only wants an Arkansas native or alum to be the next coach... We've been done before, but I do want someone who actually knows the conference or the region, preferably someone who has coached in the league or a close by league before... No matter what their level and understands what it takes to compete.
I agree. We need someone with history in the region. Who knows how things work here.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:14 pm to Jack Ruby
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Case in point being his "affinity" for calling and treating LR games like road games
I get why this would be upsetting to folks and I agree he should probably keep his mouth shut about it but it is 100% a road game. The crowd may be pro-Arkansas but that doesn’t change the fact that they have to follow their road trip routine and give up the field they practice and play on regularly.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:50 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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I think Hawgeye pointed this out in another thread - seems like Bert has no understanding of the history of the program. It's like he thinks we're akin to Texas Tech or something.
Agreed, and I've been saying this for a while. Since I'm too lazy to rewrite it, here's what I said in a different thread about it. It's more than just the opening press conference -- trying to start new traditions like throwing the A, yelling woo on 3rd down, publicly shitting on playing in Little Rock, and citing a Liberty Bowl as something to be supremely proud of all indicates that he knew/knows jack shite about the rich history of our football program.
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I know it sounds provincial, but I've always thought the same thing. Bert was a guy who's entire career was spent in the Big Ten outside of a stint at KSU, and he knew absolutely nothing about the SEC or its dynamics before taking our job. We need someone who either knows the SEC and its dynamics or has roots in the South.
Also, he knew absolutely nothing about our history, and it always rubbed me the wrong way that he came in and acted as if we'd never won anything before and had no history. He basically came in and acted like he was taking the Vandy job.
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He almost treated it like he was taking a step down. I liked the hire at the time, but his introductory presser rubbed me the wrong way with the "give you something you've never had before" lines (insert joke about "he has - suckage") and remarks about our program. For comparison sake against Wisconsin, we had/have more national titles, more conference titles, more wins, and more bowl wins, and far more bowl appearances.
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:00 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I get why this would be upsetting to folks and I agree he should probably keep his mouth shut about it but it is 100% a road game. The crowd may be pro-Arkansas but that doesn’t change the fact that they have to follow their road trip routine and give up the field they practice and play on regularly.
It's not about whether it is or isn't a pseudo road game, but rather about how it's a stupid thing for him to decry publicly. We've had a few non-Arkansan football coaches since Frank and I'm sure most of them loathed the idea of playing home games 3 hours away, but none of them were stupid enough to pick that scab publicly. What's worse is that he doubled down on it and continued to do so.
I live in NWA and think we should move all the games up here, but I also know and respect the history of playing games in Little Rock and what it meant or means to a sizeable portion of our in-state fan base.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:10 pm to Jack Ruby
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I also don't think Bert had any knowledge of just who or how important Frank was to southern football and the state. He clearly had no idea probably even who he was when he got here and seemingly didn't understand the true nature of the state and just how large of a figure Frank was.
Hell he even admitted as much in his introductory press conference. I remember he said something to the effect of "I don't know much about Coach Broyles outside of a few things Coach Frye told me recently. I look forward to getting to know about him."
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:23 pm to Jack Ruby
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I also don't think Bert had any knowledge of just who or how important Frank was to southern football and the state. He clearly had no idea probably even who he was when he got here
Eh, not sure about that. Broyles and Hayden Fry coached together and Fry played under him.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:46 pm to gohogs141
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Eh, not sure about that. Broyles and Hayden Fry coached together and Fry played under him.
But he has sort of admitted to that.
Fry is very much off the extremely rich Broyle's coaching tree but CBB has never really shown an understanding of the success Arkansas has had in football.
Its not just Broyles. We were national powers with (we will stick to the modern era but give Hugo Bezdek some love) Holtz, Hatfield, one or two years of Nutt, and the last two years of Petrino.
We aren't Eastern Michigan.
He talks about being competitive with Bama like is something we've never done before, but before this cursed losing streak started we were 7-8 against the Tide. Auburn and LSU have won national titles in the last decade and we are 5-5 with them over that time period.
Bielema took this job because he looked at the disaster with John L. Smith and thought "they cratered under a guy that everyone in the coaching business is a burn out who is prone to collapsing." He thought he was walking into a top 5 team and he wasn't.
To use a country phrase I am sure he knows. He thought he was cutting a fat hog in the arse and he wasn't.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:08 pm to Arksulli
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We need someone with history in the region. Who knows how things work here.
if settle for sec recruiting territory and connections
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