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We should never, ever, ever, try to rush a play to "catch them off guard"
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:19 am
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:19 am
~50% of the time we get a penalty
~50% of the time the play blows up because of a missed assignment.
These hurry up plays never freaking work, they're always a disaster.
We should just take our time and call a normal damn play.
~50% of the time the play blows up because of a missed assignment.
These hurry up plays never freaking work, they're always a disaster.
We should just take our time and call a normal damn play.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:51 am to IAmReality
I agree completely... What's the most important thing about converting a 4th down play? EXECUTION. TAKE YOUR TIME AND GET IT RIGHT!
Tonight was very frustrating.
Tonight was very frustrating.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:01 am to Goombaw
In general, not just limited to Alabama, but the whole "shift formations, put a man in motion" stuff drives me nuts. Does anyone think an offense gains a tactical advantage compared to the amount of false start/delay of game penalties they accrue? You know how you'd gain a tactical advantage? Get up to the line of scrimmage, get set, AND SNAP THE BALL!
How many times do you see a defense standing up and looking around when the offense takes the line of scrimmage? You can bust big plays just snapping big plays.
How many times do you see a defense standing up and looking around when the offense takes the line of scrimmage? You can bust big plays just snapping big plays.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:02 am to Goombaw
HUNH...
HU= frick that
Nh= I like the no huddle aspect. But our line is too raw for quick counts. We just frick it up. Just line up, and hit them in the face
HU= frick that
Nh= I like the no huddle aspect. But our line is too raw for quick counts. We just frick it up. Just line up, and hit them in the face
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:17 am to IAmReality
Let undermanned teams try to "fake out" a better opponent. We don't need to do this.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:34 am to IAmReality
Two of them were after a time out and we still fricked it up.
I was screaming at the TV, just pick a fricking play and hit them in the mouth.
I'm glad for the win but that was frustrating as hell. We just are "out talenting" everyone right now but that's going to catch us eventually.
I was screaming at the TV, just pick a fricking play and hit them in the mouth.
I'm glad for the win but that was frustrating as hell. We just are "out talenting" everyone right now but that's going to catch us eventually.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:11 am to IAmReality
The call and execution on that 4th and Goal were horrendous. Everyone looked confused and the play was fricked from the start
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:39 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You know how you'd gain a tactical advantage? Get up to the line of scrimmage, get set, AND SNAP THE BALL!
How many games have you actually watched this year? I mean really watched. Two huge gains in the Old Miss game...the long pass to Ridley and the long run Harris busted to the 1 yard line...were a DIRECT result of the WR motion and faked jet sweep. Go back and watch what how the LB and DB take themselves out of the play following the motion man.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:42 am to bamarep
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I was screaming at the TV, just pick a fricking play and hit them in the mouth.
Yeah, well, there were times last night we lined up and tried to run it down their throats on short yardage, and that didn't work worth shite either.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 8:43 am
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:25 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Does anyone think an offense gains a tactical advantage compared to the amount of false start/delay of game penalties they accrue?
You got numbers to back this up?
Offenses across the country have been using pre-snap motion for decades. Ours included. Its simple football. When a man is in motion, someone on the defense has to account for him, often taking a defender out of the actual direction of the play.
I hate Lane's over-reliance on horizontal cuteness as much as everybody, but a lot of it works when executed correctly against aggressive defenses in man coverage
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:29 am to BamaGradinTn
Well 1) they were bringing an all out blitz. Jalen should have seen that and called time out immediately because they were going to blow shite up no matter how much we hurried. We were running into the teeth of a sell-out blitz. 2) They jumped the snap count perfectly which allowed them to be in the backfield before the ball was. Well played by LSU, poorly played by us. Last night was an example of why Joey Freshwater's off-the-cuff game plans are so dangerous against a good, talented, squad.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:40 pm to stomp
I know motion makes a defense declare whether they are man or zone (not 100% of the time, but basically it does). I also know that motion basically blocks a defender by formation. I get all that.
I'm just wondering if anyone has done any quantitative research as an organization to determine if how many penalties/negative plays they accrue as a result of pre-snap shifting and motion.
I'm just wondering if anyone has done any quantitative research as an organization to determine if how many penalties/negative plays they accrue as a result of pre-snap shifting and motion.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:50 pm to IAmReality
It's happened all this year really, and some last year I believe.
Go back and watch these "hurry up" plays, not a single one of them has worked and they usually are a huge disaster.
Go back and watch these "hurry up" plays, not a single one of them has worked and they usually are a huge disaster.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 5:18 pm to IAmReality
I personally wish we'd line up quickly and do a hard count WITHOUT snapping the ball. If the defense doesn't jump offsides, take your time to run the play or call the timeout to talk about it.
It's almost as automatic as Griffith missing a FG that we either aren't set or false start.
It's almost as automatic as Griffith missing a FG that we either aren't set or false start.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:44 am to IAmReality
Dublè post
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:12 am to IAmReality
Especially in the red zone.
I've come to just expect a CamRob false start
I've come to just expect a CamRob false start
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:25 pm to IAmReality
We obviously just need to spend more time in practice on the quick snap. I like it. We just seem to never execute it properly. I think we had a solid gameplan limiting and covering up our weakness at getting Ridley and Stewart the ball. The LSixU defense is also elite as frick and kept us out of the endzone.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:11 pm to IAmReality
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Go back and watch these "hurry up" plays, not a single one of them has worked and they usually are a huge disaster.
I notice it, but I'm sure our quality control guys have data that Nick reviews with Lane. Surely we're not just pissing in the wind and hoping not to get wet as far as pass/fail percentages go
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