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re: Unbelievable stat regarding Alabama's Playcalling in the second half
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:02 pm to remaster916
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:02 pm to remaster916
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You got to take with the defense gives you, if the D is loading the box. You pass to open up running lanes. There wasn't much running room, most of Bama's rush yards came on 5 plays.
How did that work out for us?? I'm not a fan of these California kids
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:05 pm to BamaBo7
It's in their DNA, they must pass. And I hate it too. Ready to end this experiment and go back to pro style, under the center offense. A mobile QB would be just as dangerous in pro style without all this high school spread offense bullshite.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:27 am to chattabama
One of those runs was Jalen running it to the sideline on 3rd and 5. Horrible
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:41 am to Gary Busey
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One of those runs was Jalen running it to the sideline on 3rd and 5. Horrible
Jalen's decision making was as bad as I've ever seen.
He literally made the wrong decision on like 7 scramble or throw plays, most of them 3rd downs. Every time he threw it was late or the guy was covered and he had a CLEAR lane to the 1st down. Every time he ran he waited too late and there was a guy open past the sticks.
Holy shite, there was one 3rd down where he rolled, had plenty of room and Calvin Ridley running wide open and free by 10 yards behind the defense and he looked, kind of stopped, then tucked and tiptoed over and got like 2 yards. I almost had a hernia.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:11 am to chattabama
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But balance it with what your freshman QB is also giving you.
nothing?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:13 am to KareemAbdul
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nothing?
Exactly. The one advantage to running with a stacked box is if the defenders miss tackles, the RB hits pay dirt. We saw that with Bo Scar twice.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:56 am to chattabama
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Cole Cubelic ?@colecubelic Jan 10
Alabama had 8 designed runs in the second half, tied for their fewest in any half this season per @ESPNStatsInfo
After Bo went down, we gave the ball to the RB a grand total of 4 times in a game where we were trying to protect a lead. No wonder we lost.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:01 am to TiderNAL
Our stats on first down were atrocious. We could simply never get on schedule and put ourselves in a favorable position on 2nd and 3rd Downs.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:23 am to FairhopeTider
And still nobody wants to play what if with Kiffin. I honestly think Lane wins the game for us. He was so much more used to calling plays in the flow of the game. I still think that was a dumb decision
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:33 am to uofarolltide
The flow of the game didn't matter to Kiffin. He had Bo running wild against Washington, but wouldn't stop calling pass plays.
Just about everyone on this board complained about his playcalling most of the year and got even worse his last few games. Now some are saying, the playcalling would have gotten better Monday?
Just about everyone on this board complained about his playcalling most of the year and got even worse his last few games. Now some are saying, the playcalling would have gotten better Monday?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:35 am to uofarolltide
I don't think it's a given that Lane would've done any better. Just look at the Washington game. Sure, I would take a 100% focused Lane Kiffin over giving Sark one week to prepare but I don't think that was the case here.
Saban would not have made that move if he didn't think it was the right call.
Saban would not have made that move if he didn't think it was the right call.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:10 pm to FairhopeTider
I think how bad Jalen played really through off the coaching. It was his worst game by far. Never looked downfield, always ran out of the pocket too early, bad timing, overthrows, etc.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:17 pm to KareemAbdul
Yea, Jalen was Brandon Avalos bad. Sark gave him 5-6 wide open easy throws and Jalen wasn't even close. And then we'd run stuff where the 2nd option or delayed option was openot and Jalen froze or threw it 4 seconds too late.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:21 pm to KareemAbdul
I think it's safe to say Hurts was a liability and his limited passing ability really made things tough. We can say that while also saying he was clutch and put us in position to win at the end. We simply had no intermediate passing game and we weren't good enough to just run the ball every play.
The underlying problems we had all season (on and off the field) came to a head when we played Clemson. It's as simple as that. Hopefully there will be some reevaluating going on as we go forward as to what type of offense we want to run. IMO, we really lacked an identity this year and unlike last year when we had Henry, we didn't have a safety valve for when times got tough. Jalen's arm was a liability and his legs were an asset.
Still had a relatively good offense and it's still amazing we did what we did with a true freshman.
The underlying problems we had all season (on and off the field) came to a head when we played Clemson. It's as simple as that. Hopefully there will be some reevaluating going on as we go forward as to what type of offense we want to run. IMO, we really lacked an identity this year and unlike last year when we had Henry, we didn't have a safety valve for when times got tough. Jalen's arm was a liability and his legs were an asset.
Still had a relatively good offense and it's still amazing we did what we did with a true freshman.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:12 pm to uofarolltide
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And still nobody wants to play what if with Kiffin.
what is the point? Saban made the call, he has his finger on the pulse of the program more than anyone else.
9 penalties and minimal points off of the turnovers were the problems.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:19 pm to uofarolltide
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And still nobody wants to play what if with Kiffin
Play what how? It's all speculation that does not change one aspect of the actual outcome. Yes it's nice to say we would've won that game for sure but it's not putting another trophy in the case. And for all we know there could've been a whole list of shite that caused Saban to do this.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:21 pm to FairhopeTider
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I think it's safe to say Hurts was a liability and his limited passing ability really made things tough. We can say that while also saying he was clutch and put us in position to win at the end. We simply had no intermediate passing game and we weren't good enough to just run the ball every play. The underlying problems we had all season (on and off the field) came to a head when we played Clemson. It's as simple as that. Hopefully there will be some reevaluating going on as we go forward as to what type of offense we want to run. IMO, we really lacked an identity this year and unlike last year when we had Henry, we didn't have a safety valve for when times got tough. Jalen's arm was a liability and his legs were an asset. Still had a relatively good offense and it's still amazing we did what we did with a true freshman.
Just think of it this way - we went into a season with an offense that was starting a true freshman and was replacing a Heisman trophy winner at running back, with a line started the year firmly in the "average" category.
The fact that we did what we did for most of the year was pretty insane. Lane was fantastic until he had to juggle two jobs or the thought of two jobs.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:22 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Unless Kiffin would have soothed Jalens soul and made him consistently make 7 yard throws then there is nothing Kiff would have done to make it better.
Clemson was a good defense, we had no passing game and somehow we scored 31 points.
Clemson was a good defense, we had no passing game and somehow we scored 31 points.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:52 pm to FairhopeTider
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The underlying problems we had all season (on and off the field) came to a head when we played Clemson. It's as simple as that. Hopefully there will be some reevaluating going on as we go forward as to what type of offense we want to run. IMO, we really lacked an identity this year and unlike last year when we had Henry, we didn't have a safety valve for when times got tough. Jalen's arm was a liability and his legs were an asset.
I've said that most of the year and people get pissed at me, but it's so. Hopefully it won't be more of the same next year, but there is no guarantee.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:34 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
This was the first year since 2012 that we didn't have a Heisman contender on the offense....of course that 2012 Offense was potentially GOAT and had multiple All-Americans and future pro stars. Those Heisman guys (AJ, Amari, Henry) were the focal points of the offense. We could pretty much rely on them when times got tough.
We replaced our QB and RB this year. That's probably why we went with Jalen in the first place. His running ability would be our X factor that other teams would have to gameplan around. Unfortunately, depending on an 18 year old to be the focal point of the offense isn't a reliable strategy but it was the best one we had.
Let's hope someone emerges as that "safety valve/star" next year.
We replaced our QB and RB this year. That's probably why we went with Jalen in the first place. His running ability would be our X factor that other teams would have to gameplan around. Unfortunately, depending on an 18 year old to be the focal point of the offense isn't a reliable strategy but it was the best one we had.
Let's hope someone emerges as that "safety valve/star" next year.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 3:36 pm
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