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re: tOfficial Alabama Basketball Season Thread | 19-15 (10-8) | #BuckleUp

Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:10 am to
You guys have to believe we'll be able to close out some of these games next year with better talent. Five of the six losses this team has, they've had opportunities to win down the stretch, just couldn't close out.

Hopeful post, and I know the talent will be young next year. I just see how Key has played and how Hall has played the last two years, I think we're in for a big step up next year.

Trying to stay optimistic.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:19 am to
This year has been frustrating, but analytically we're a significantly better team than we were last season. I agree Gary, an influx of guys who can make plays and score will take us from .500 team who plays good defense but can't consistently score to solid, NCAA caliber team.

We play very good defense, we are a very good rebounding team.......we just don't have anybody who can consistently score or make shots. Avery is trying his best to scheme around that, but it's pretty difficult.

I hate thinking about next year, but add the two blue chippers to a team with Hall, Ingram, Key and whatever we get out of King and Giddens plus some erratic shooting from Davis and a solid backup PG in Avery Jr? That team has a chance to be pretty good depending on how good the freshmen actually end up being.

We just have to slop through this year and understand the roster makeup at this point and it's limitations.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:21 am to
Look at some of these pure offensive metrics. We're just plain awful.

Adjusted Offensive Efficiency - 194th
eFG% - 232nd
3PT% - 297th
FT% - 316th

Not much you can do to work around that sort of turd sandwich.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:40 am to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

You guys have to believe we'll be able to close out some of these games next year with better talent. Five of the six losses this team has, they've had opportunities to win down the stretch, just couldn't close out.

Hopeful post, and I know the talent will be young next year. I just see how Key has played and how Hall has played the last two years, I think we're in for a big step up next year.

Trying to stay optimistic.


Next year?

I haven't given up on THIS year.

I fully expected to lose to Florida. The fact that we were in the game until pretty much the very end was a much better performance than I expected.

As you said, this team could have won a lot of the close games against pretty good teams. Aside from UK, there's nobody in the SEC better than the teams we've played thus far and many of them are quote worse. I still think 10 or more conference wins are very possible.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:15 am to
Yeah take a look at the 5 games we've played since Avery scrapped part of the playbook. We're 4-1 and have played pretty good. We still have a shot at the NCAA tourney THIS year if we can beat most of the average teams on our schedule. Only for sure losses are UK, SCar, and maybe Arky.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:41 am to
To even sniff the NCAA now, you're likely going to need 10 MORE regular season wins plus a couple in the tourney.

That's probably asking too much, but an upper half to third conference finish and NIT bit is still right there for the taking.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:53 am to
If we win every game except Kentucky, SCar, and Arky, we'd be 21-9 (14-4). Can about guarantee you that won't happen but that's the ceiling for this season. With how weak the SEC is and having no really good wins, I'm guessing we'd be on the bubble but get in.
Posted by JBearden
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:20 pm to
If we could just hit free throws .....we'd probably have a few more wins. Pretty good wins at that.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Y'all really are snakebit. Pearl had them looking good early on, but yeah right now things are pretty


So Auburn is #322 in Experience (1.13yrs) and #312/351 in "Minute Continuity" (Measures returning minute share from last year to this year)
Our big issue is that the youth doesn't have veteran leadership to push them to buy into the offense/defense. Guys fall back to playing like their AAU days and we struggle when that happens


I love Bruce but for this specific circumstance, we need some Frank Martin babysitting to get these kids on board
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
We aren't going to the NCAA tournament. Lets hope the team improves, plays well down the stretch and is fun to watch in the conference tournament.

We don't have any good wins and unless we beat Kentucky we won't have any really impressive wins all season. Zero shot at the NCAA tournament.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:13 pm to
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We don't have any good wins


Yall are just in a shite situation for NCAAT birth because of this.

There aren't really many top teams left on the schedule and you can't afford to drop any against lesser opponents.

Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:16 pm to
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There aren't really many top teams left on the schedule and you can't afford to drop any against lesser opponents.


Yep - our only slim path was to beat Florida at home. Without that, we really only have 2 shots left at Top 30 RPI type wins, and I don't see any way we beat Kentucky at home or win at South Carolina.

I mean, honestly, I don't see much way we win out in all the toss up/dead even games either, which would also be necessary. We just don't score enough.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:06 pm to
The SEC is garbage. We can beat any team not named Kentucky imo.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:38 pm to
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We aren't going to the NCAA tournament


Oh, I didn't mean to imply that we are going to the NCAAs. That went out the window when we didn't win any of the big OOC games.

What I meant by not giving up on the season is that we still have a reasonable shot at a high conference finish and NIT bid. That isn't what we hoped for, but it isn't the end of the world either.

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:34 pm to
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The SEC is garbage. We can beat any team not named Kentucky imo.


There is a big difference between winnable and likely win though


Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:09 pm to
I just want to improve our overall record from last year
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:10 am to
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Avery Johnson said he brought out a new free-throw drill this week in practice. If a player misses a FT, they have to run "significantly."


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Avery Johnson on Dazon Ingram's rebounding: "We think he could arguably be the best rebounding point guard in the SEC."


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Avery Johnson: Overall we've had three winnable games [in SEC play] and we've won two, still a long ways to go.


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Johnson wants the disappointment the students felt after his team lost to Florida to fuel them to come back more fired up with more students


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Johnson said the disappointment fans felt after the football team lost is a great problem to have, because it meant team was in big game.


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He said he hopes he can be in a situation to play in a game that big here at UA one day.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:35 pm to
Check out the first quote in my post above.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:47 pm to
We are 2 point favorites for the game tomorrow.
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