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Thank God Kirby wasn't made coach in waiting
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:10 am
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:10 am
So many wanted him to be our head coach after Saban. Yikes.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:21 am to CrimsonCrusade
I think he will eventually turn things around at UGA.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:34 am to CrimsonCrusade
Some of y'all are just shitting all over Kirby. Did we forget that Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe his first year with us? HCs rarely set the world on fire their first year.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:41 am to BigBird09
You are right but Kirby has a lot more talent than Saban had in 07. Plus Georgia plays in the east. He may turn it around but I doubt it. Saban also beat our eastern rival 41-7 his first year. Kirby won't do that.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:20 am to BigBird09
Saban inherited a 6-7 team with mediocre talent and made it 7-6, including multiple wins over ranked opponents. Just Bama's second winning season in 5 years at the time.
Kirby inherited a 10-3 team with top tier talent, plays in probably the worst Power 5 division, and will likely post UGA's worst record in 20 years.
Kirby inherited a 10-3 team with top tier talent, plays in probably the worst Power 5 division, and will likely post UGA's worst record in 20 years.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:21 am to sunseeker
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You are right but Kirby has a lot more talent than Saban had in 07. Plus Georgia plays in the east. He may turn it around but I doubt it. Saban also beat our eastern rival 41-7 his first year. Kirby won't do that.
Do you honestly think we went from barely making a bowl game to title contenders the next year with that one class? It takes time to implement a new system.
The East was the stronger side of the conference Saban's first year.
Kirby may not destroy his rival this year, but he probably also won't lose to a .500 team from the sun belt conference.
Kirby may or may not turn it around, but it is WAY too early to pass out verdicts right now.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:34 am to CrimsonCrusade
I'm not saying Kirby is the next Nick Saban. I'm adding perspective on why it's ridiculous to judge a HC on his first year at a program.
Are we going to act like everyone wasn't pissed off and lost their minds when we lost to ULM Saban's first year?
Kirby needs time to prove whether or not he will succeed.
Are we going to act like everyone wasn't pissed off and lost their minds when we lost to ULM Saban's first year?
Kirby needs time to prove whether or not he will succeed.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:36 am to BigBird09
I think most Bama fans were not excited for the way he handled the Mo Smith situation, so we are having some fun at his expense.
And while Vandy isn't a SunBelt team, they're not exactly quality competition. And he came close to losing to Nicholls St.
And while Vandy isn't a SunBelt team, they're not exactly quality competition. And he came close to losing to Nicholls St.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:04 am to BigBird09
Your post makes no sense. We didn't get the game changing players until the 08 class. The 07 class was ok but not great at all. Georgia this year absolutely has more talent than the 07 Bama team. It's not even close.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:05 am to CrimsonCrusade
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Kirby inherited a 10-3 team with top tier talent
A 10-3 team yes...top tier talent? Not even close...their offensive line is not good, to say the least. I don't think any of their OL starters could start on any other Big 6 OL. Chubb had something like 40 yards on 16 carries against Vandy and it's not because Kirby Smart can't coach; it's because their OL was overmatched against Vandy. Where's the top tier talent in their receiving corps? They have good TEs but name a WR on their team that could break into our 2-deep.
Where's the top tier talent on their D? Not saying their devoid but, unlike the last few years where they've had stud LBs, but I don't see top tier talent. Sanders is a decent safety but their top corner is probably a guy that played a good bit in our secondary last year but was relegated to reserve status last year by a true freshman. And they've struggled at kicking as well...
They have top tier talent at RB and at QB, but without an OL and a decent WR corps, it doesn't mean much...and their QB is young/still learning and making freshman mistakes.
Not saying Kirby will be a great coach but it's way too early to tell especially considering the lack of talent he inherited. On sports talk radio here in Georgia, they were talkin' 'bout UGA's class of 2013 the other day...they took 33 recruits and they'd be juniors now and you'd expect many to be key contributors. Only 16 are still with the team and only 3 started more than half of last year's games. Of their top 4 recruits, 3 have left and the 4th has never started. Kirby did not inherit top tier talent...won't be able to tell much 'bout him till year 3...
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:44 am to BigBird09
The SEC was way down in 08, which really helped Bama have a good year.
Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, and Miss St all had losing records.
LSU lost 5 games. Even Clemson was average that year.
Georgia, Ole Miss and Kentucky were the best 3 teams Bama beat that year.
Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, and Miss St all had losing records.
LSU lost 5 games. Even Clemson was average that year.
Georgia, Ole Miss and Kentucky were the best 3 teams Bama beat that year.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:19 pm to sunseeker
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Your post makes no sense. We didn't get the game changing players until the 08 class. The 07 class was ok but not great at all.
What? The '08 class is the one class I'm referring to.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:20 pm to remaster916
I wouldn't even trade Pruitt for Kirby to come back as DC.
Kirby will never be the man at Bama.
And by the way... a program like Bama should never hire the hot up and coming "assistant" coach.
ALWAYS hire a proven, established HC with a track record of success.
Hopefully Dabo will continue to improve. Until I saw the unbelievably bad coaching he displayed in the barn game this season I thought he may be the next HC, but now I'm back to not having a clue.
Hopefully his coaching skills will improve though because I think there is a great chance it will be Dabo when the time comes.
Honestly though CNS does not look to be slowing down. Why would he retire ? Is he really going to be happy watching the ducks shite the lawn when he's used to the adrenaline rush every Saturday fall afternoon ?
I dont see a man like CNS being happy with retirement.
I do know when he does hang it up there will be a looong line of HC's salivating at the idea of getting an interview for the job.
Kirby will never be the man at Bama.
And by the way... a program like Bama should never hire the hot up and coming "assistant" coach.
ALWAYS hire a proven, established HC with a track record of success.
Hopefully Dabo will continue to improve. Until I saw the unbelievably bad coaching he displayed in the barn game this season I thought he may be the next HC, but now I'm back to not having a clue.
Hopefully his coaching skills will improve though because I think there is a great chance it will be Dabo when the time comes.
Honestly though CNS does not look to be slowing down. Why would he retire ? Is he really going to be happy watching the ducks shite the lawn when he's used to the adrenaline rush every Saturday fall afternoon ?
I dont see a man like CNS being happy with retirement.
I do know when he does hang it up there will be a looong line of HC's salivating at the idea of getting an interview for the job.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:20 pm to CrimsonCrusade
I was always against this and really don't think it was ever even a real possibility
Posted on 10/16/16 at 12:23 pm to remaster916
I wonder how Maurice Smith feels right about now...
Posted on 10/16/16 at 1:02 pm to CrimsonCrusade
Jury is still out on him. But it goes to show that a head coach is an entirely different job than a coordinator.
He may become great. he may fail. only time will tell.
He may become great. he may fail. only time will tell.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 2:04 pm to East Coast Band
When Saban retires, the fist call needs to go to Urban Meyer.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 2:43 pm to PowHound
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And by the way... a program like Bama should never hire the hot up and coming "assistant" coach.
I wouldn't say never...in between Bear and Stallings and Saban, our coaches were not exactly considered established coaching geniuses...and even Stallings had a losing record (in college and pro) when he was hired. And whenever Saban retires/leaves, I'm not so sure how many good established coaches, other than maybe Swinney who's a Bama alum, would want to follow Saban and the huge expectations...
Posted on 10/16/16 at 3:06 pm to PowHound
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And by the way... a program like Bama should never hire the hot up and coming "assistant" coach.
ALWAYS hire a proven, established HC with a track record of success.
This....This....This
Alabama is not a place to have on the job training. Its a good job but a tough job. You don't want to hire a guy who has to "figure it out." That's why I never wanted Kirby to replace Saban.
Quite frankly, a program like Georgia shouldn't hire an unproven commodity either....especially when you fire a solid coach in Richt.
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