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re: So tired of the Jalen Hurts hate
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:58 pm to Bear88
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:58 pm to Bear88
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Really need to take that pic of tweet down. Not very flattering or indicative of most of our fan base. Sure it would not be amusing that recruits either.
I went ahead and took it down since we've seen it.
Those people are out there. I've heard them with my own ears, and while they are not indicative of the entire fanbase, plenty feel a certain type of way about Hurts and don't make their feelings public.
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:01 pm to BrianFantana
The ironic thing about Jalen's TD pass to OJ is that the whole reason it worked is because Clemson had no respect for his downfield passing. 
Not hating, it's just funny. Team loss last night.
Not hating, it's just funny. Team loss last night. Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:03 pm to stomp
Thanks. Agree on all points
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:38 pm to TideCPA
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I don't think he regressed at all. I think teams stopped defending him as a dual threat QB and started defending him as a single threat QB. Fortunately he has time to work on his passing between now and August.
This....we saw what a true dual threat looked like last night.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:35 pm to Triple Daves
Let's not underestimate the fact that if you believe insiders, then Kiffin probably did Jalen no favors the last month of the season. I'm sure that stunted some of Hurts' growth.
What gets me is why we completely abandoned the long ball...even if we only tried it just to try to stretch the defense. We waited until the 3rd Quarter to finally try it. Hurts first TD against USC is a perfect example of what we should've tried more of. If it's 3rd an a mile at our own 45, just let Hurts chunk it way downfield and let one of our great WRs make a play. Best case is a catch and worst case is a pick that is probably no worse than the inevitable JK Scott touchback.
What gets me is why we completely abandoned the long ball...even if we only tried it just to try to stretch the defense. We waited until the 3rd Quarter to finally try it. Hurts first TD against USC is a perfect example of what we should've tried more of. If it's 3rd an a mile at our own 45, just let Hurts chunk it way downfield and let one of our great WRs make a play. Best case is a catch and worst case is a pick that is probably no worse than the inevitable JK Scott touchback.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:41 pm to FairhopeTider
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What gets me is why we completely abandoned the long ball...even if we only tried it just to try to stretch the defense. We waited until the 3rd Quarter to finally try it. Hurts first TD against USC is a perfect example of what we should've tried more of. If it's 3rd an a mile at our own 45, just let Hurts chunk it way downfield and let one of our great WRs make a play. Best case is a catch and worst case is a pick that is probably no worse than the inevitable JK Scott touchback.
Totally agree. Low risk play and I trust our guys to make a play every once in a while on the ball or get PI.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:46 pm to Triple Daves
Something I will never forget is the guts it took to drive our team down the field and score one last time. Hurts did that, with his legs and his arm. We scored to fast with the OJ play and or the Hurts run in but it was a hell of a drive by an 18 year old. I'm proud of the kid personally and one off season with Sark and he is going to truly fly.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:47 pm to CrimsonBoz
Yea, even with all that failure he just found a way to win the game (then we lost it).
He's definitely a gamer. Hopefully he had thever tools to improve.
He's definitely a gamer. Hopefully he had thever tools to improve.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:16 am to stomp
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I did not say everyone was. I said they're either 1 or another
But you're still wrong. You're using ad hominem attacks as opposed to putting forward any evidence to support your claims. "If you disagree with my opinion, it's because you're dumb or a racist" is a pretty weak dialectic. Contributes nothing to the conversation and is based on fallacies.
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It's a miracle that Jalen didn't have a complete meltdown that singlehandedly lost multiple regular season games. That's typically the expectation of true freshmen QBs.
I'm inclined to agree here, but I think his problem late was being overly conservative. He was holding onto the ball waiting for someone to be totally uncovered, because he was so afraid of throwing a pick. He was much more aggressive at the start of the season, to much better effect.
The fact of the matter is, his play was a liability on Monday. Clemson had so little respect for the pass that they were playing 9 guys in the box at certain points. Yes, he was a true freshman and that excuses it to an extent. But to say criticism is totally unwarranted is just flat out inaccurate.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:28 am to stomp
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Bigotry isn't limited to race. Case in point: The immediate Kiffin hate from certain sectors of the fan base.
And let's not forget the hate for Adam.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 12:04 pm to Carolina Tide
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And let's not forget the hate for Adam.
Can we hate Auburn and Tennessee? Cause I really want to do that.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 2:51 pm to BrianFantana
Hurts needs to link up with whoever coached up Sims in the offseason before the '14 season. Both are natural RB's trying to play QB.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:13 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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The fact of the matter is, his play was a liability on Monday. Clemson had so little respect for the pass that they were playing 9 guys in the box at certain points. Yes, he was a true freshman and that excuses it to an extent. But to say criticism is totally unwarranted is just flat out inaccurate.
My frustration isn't with the criticism. Ive been critical of him at times (not much because I understand how fortunate we are with him).
My frustration is with the overly critical ones who are already crowing Tua and thinks he could outperform Hurts next year. THOSE are the goofballs Im referring to when said what I said about their perceived motives.
Nobody is above criticism. But some of the posters here are outright lunatics.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:37 am to TideCPA
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. I think teams stopped defending him as a dual threat QB and started defending him as a single threat QB.
We finished the season against 4 top 10 defenses. We were largely forced to abandon a large part of wide game, which would soften up the middle of the defenses.
I'm also throwing this out there. I think the Auburn game scared Saban. We had started to open up the playbook, but we seemed to throw away like 80% of it after that game.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:58 am to RTR America
The bottom line is that, despite all the superlatives, Hurts currently doesn't possess the skill most closely associated with the position he's playing. All (I assume) of us believed that he would develop the ability to pass the ball, but it just never happened.
There is no hate. There is disappointment at what many see as a regression of that skill, rather than the improvement we all hoped for. This loss was destined to happen. If not for the defense, it probably would have happened three or four times.
Now we just wait and see how he improves in year 2.
There is no hate. There is disappointment at what many see as a regression of that skill, rather than the improvement we all hoped for. This loss was destined to happen. If not for the defense, it probably would have happened three or four times.
Now we just wait and see how he improves in year 2.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:03 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:22 am to stomp
The reality is Tua COULD beat him out. However, usually the most growth players (especially QBs) experience is from their first year to their second year. The above reference to Sims is also instructive. Remember how god-awful he looked in the spring game? Then turned into an SEC champion QB. Hurts is miles past Sims development at this stage.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:52 am to SoFla Tideroller
Some of you need to get come back to reality. You act like the kid never hit a WR with a pass ever. His freshman year was just fine, he'll have a qb coach and roll into next year a better passer. Again most of his issue is seeing the field and stepping into the pocket to throw. Easily fixed with instruction. The notion that he is awful and all this is ridiculous. He will be just fine. As another poster said the biggest leap is from fr to soph.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:41 am to BrianFantana
It's not Jalen hate, it's more to do with we are not able to take advantage of the strength of the offense with him. This year he was not duel threat, but he was damn good. 
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:32 am to BrianFantana
I mean.... what more can you ask?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:38 am to Lordofwrath88
Jacob Eason was supposed to be (and may still be) one of the best pro-style QBs in a long time to come out of high school. He was polished and had NFL tools. Now, he didn't have a great supporting cast, but still, these were his numbers......
55% Completion
6.6 YPA
16 TD/8 INT
Being a true freshman QB at a high level like the SEC is incredibly difficult. Nobody does it well, nobody, not for a full season. The fact that Jalen pushed through it and kept playing relatively well and exerted leadership is amazing.
55% Completion
6.6 YPA
16 TD/8 INT
Being a true freshman QB at a high level like the SEC is incredibly difficult. Nobody does it well, nobody, not for a full season. The fact that Jalen pushed through it and kept playing relatively well and exerted leadership is amazing.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 10:39 am
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