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So tired of the Jalen Hurts hate
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:44 pm
This dude has had an unbelievable year, and y'all are just killing him on here. This place and twitter are unbearable because of people like the vast majority of Bama fans on here. He is an 18 year old kid who accounted for 36 TD's, and almost 4,000 yards of total offense. He struggles sometimes throwing the ball, but he has made huge play after huge play all year long. When the game was on the line last night he made two monstrous plays to give us the lead with 2:00 to go, Yeah the defense took 90 plus snaps, but they still HAVE to hold them to a field goal there. Where is the hate for Dieter, Ridley, and Ardarious having huge drops last night? What about Tim Williams who got his butt whipped all night? Y'all can say they held us all night, go back and watch Korren Korven hold the crap out of the guy who would have made the play on Bo's first TD. Jalen is an easy target because he is QB1, but y'all are getting ridiculous with the hate. Tua played weak competition in high school, and y'all expect him to be the savior? Why not get behind the QB who has proved himself all year long… in the SEC.. and when the national title was on the line.
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:12 pm to BrianFantana
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Yeah the defense took 90 plus snaps, but they still HAVE to hold them to a field goal there.
While I agree the D has to step up there you can't fault them. Hurts (the offense) can't not do shite the entire second half then drive the field to go up in the final minutes of the game and expect the D to come through again. The D put the offense in good field position all night including two turnovers inside CU territory. Going 3 and out repeatedly will tire any D out, including ours. Yes Hurts is only a freshman and isn't "big time" but he's playing for a big time school in big time games. And if you can't admit he has regressed the second half of the season you're not paying attention. Hurts may very well become a great QB but to say he's lacking in certain areas is accurate.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:15 pm to BrianFantana
It's pretty ridiculous. Definitely the most spoiled fan base out there. Many are just completely devoid of any rational perspective. It's pathetic.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:23 pm to BrianFantana
I like the guy. I've just been realistic about his abilities and what it would probably cost us. If he was the best option, then I guess it kind of sucks to be him because he was thrown into the fray when he really didn't have a chance to succeed. Saying he can't pass is an observation, not hate. I blame the fans that kept on and on pumping him up and pretending he was great, when he just wasn't. Now people are shocked that he's having bad games and are turning on him. Be rational in the beginning. Say, "Hey, he can't pass well, maybe we can game plan around it." Or, "We'll probably lose a game or two this year, if we're starting a true freshman QB." But no, any hint that he wasn't the next coming was met with page after page of meaningless stats and homerism.
I hope he turns it around and becomes the greatest passer to ever live. He's a hard worker and has the right attitude. Is that enough? We'll see.
I hope he turns it around and becomes the greatest passer to ever live. He's a hard worker and has the right attitude. Is that enough? We'll see.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:24 pm to GAFF
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And if you can't admit he has regressed the second half of the season you're not paying attention.
I don't think he regressed at all. I think teams stopped defending him as a dual threat QB and started defending him as a single threat QB. Fortunately he has time to work on his passing between now and August.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:28 pm to BrianFantana
Hurts probably had one of the best seasons ever for a true freshman. Give him a full offseason to work out the kinks and I like our odds.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:30 pm to Funky Tide 8
I thought Jalen played a decent game.
Clemsons WR's caught everything that came anywhere near them.
Our WR's dropped so many crucial passes.
Nothing went right. The OL played poorly. Someone decided that the hurry up was a good idea even though Bama was going 3 and out every series, and not giving the D any time at all to breathe.
WR's didn't make plays. Adam Griffith couldn't kick the ball into the endzone. If Griffith could have kicked a touchback on their last possession instead of them running it from the five to damn near midfield that would have been huge, but no... griffith gave us his parting gift.
The penalty on Payne at the end should have been off setting at the least, but could have been called on Clemson.
Either one of the pic plays they scored on could have been called.
Bo injured... again.
really I could go on and on... Loss is not on Hurts.
Clemsons WR's caught everything that came anywhere near them.
Our WR's dropped so many crucial passes.
Nothing went right. The OL played poorly. Someone decided that the hurry up was a good idea even though Bama was going 3 and out every series, and not giving the D any time at all to breathe.
WR's didn't make plays. Adam Griffith couldn't kick the ball into the endzone. If Griffith could have kicked a touchback on their last possession instead of them running it from the five to damn near midfield that would have been huge, but no... griffith gave us his parting gift.
The penalty on Payne at the end should have been off setting at the least, but could have been called on Clemson.
Either one of the pic plays they scored on could have been called.
Bo injured... again.
really I could go on and on... Loss is not on Hurts.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:33 pm to PowHound
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Clemsons WR's caught everything that came anywhere near them. Our WR's dropped so many crucial passes.
Difference in the game, but there were a lot of other missed opportunities on both sides of the ball. I thought Jalen had an ok game. Didn't win the game or lose it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:34 pm to PowHound
Dieter dropping that 3rd down pass that would have extended a possible scoring drive makes me want to puke.
He makes that catch at the bare minimum more time off the clock that Clemson doesn't have later, and the D gets to rest long enough to finish a cup of gatorade.
He makes that catch at the bare minimum more time off the clock that Clemson doesn't have later, and the D gets to rest long enough to finish a cup of gatorade.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:34 pm to BrianFantana
There's two things going on. Either some of these people truly don't understand football and the level of competency of a freshman QB, or they're closet bigots.
The guy is only going to get better, but, sure, let's start over with ANOTHER freshman who will have the same damned problems.
The guy is only going to get better, but, sure, let's start over with ANOTHER freshman who will have the same damned problems.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:35 pm to stomp
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There's two things going on. Either some of these people truly don't understand football and the level of competency of a freshman QB, or they're closet bigots.
The majority grilling him were probably chanting Hurts for Heisman. The should take a page from his book and not get too high or too low.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:38 pm to Gustave
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The majority grilling him were probably chanting Hurts for Heisman. The should take a page from his book and not get too high or too low.
I'm not so sure about that.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:40 pm to PowHound
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If Griffith could have kicked a touchback on their last possession instead of them running it from the five to damn near midfield that would have been huge, but no... griffith gave us his parting gift.
He's kicked the ball out of the back of the end zone a good bit this year and previous years. Those kickoffs being short were planned. It was a bad plan, and I can't believe the Bama staff didn't make an adjustment.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:41 pm to BrianFantana
I think Hurts is limited right now and didn't progress very much down the stretch, but I don't put last night on his shoulders. He didn't get any help. The line didn't do their job, we had stupid penalties and tons of drops. He didn't have a great game, but I believe he did enough for us to win if he would have gotten help. I wasn't very impressed with the game plan either. The entire offense felt out of sync.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:43 pm to Gustave
What Teague said.
He was a true freshman QB with less of an arm than Ardarius Stewart. I saw this coming all the way, but our defense was so dominant that our lack of a QB didn't matter.
Let me just say, I love Jalen. He's got a great attitude, and has a certain mystique about him.
That said, he has to improve as a passer, or he can't play QB at Alabama.
He was a true freshman QB with less of an arm than Ardarius Stewart. I saw this coming all the way, but our defense was so dominant that our lack of a QB didn't matter.
Let me just say, I love Jalen. He's got a great attitude, and has a certain mystique about him.
That said, he has to improve as a passer, or he can't play QB at Alabama.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:47 pm to uofarolltide
The issue is this: people always look for someone to blame. Every single person in this program gave this game all they had. Jalen played just as good/bad as he has all year long.
The fact is we DONT have a very productive QB. Our coaches don't trust him to pass on 3rd and 6 - that's a major handicap.
If there's one major weakspot it was the QB position. Can't blame Jalen, because he played like he has all year. He didn't have a bad game. I feel like Sark could've had a better game plan. Should've run Bo more before he got hurt.
The offense dropped the ball last night
The fact is we DONT have a very productive QB. Our coaches don't trust him to pass on 3rd and 6 - that's a major handicap.
If there's one major weakspot it was the QB position. Can't blame Jalen, because he played like he has all year. He didn't have a bad game. I feel like Sark could've had a better game plan. Should've run Bo more before he got hurt.
The offense dropped the ball last night
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:49 pm to Gustave
At least some of the blame for Hurts lack of development in the passing game lies right at the feet of Nick Saban. This kid has been berated sand preached to so much about not turning it over and putting Sabans defense in a bad spot on the field, he's scared to throw it at all. And we had a defense this year that could have afforded the kid some mistakes and turnovers. It's hard to learn what you can and can't get away with as a QB if you aren't allowed to try. You've got to let him throw it downfield some into places he shouldn't so he knows when he should.
Granted, you can't get away with that very much in the playoffs but the die was already cast at that point. The Jalen Hurts that made some mistakes of youth but made some plays downfield against USC and Ole Miss was not the same QB that took the field in the playoffs. The gunslinger mentality had been thoroughly quashed by then and it shows.
Granted, you can't get away with that very much in the playoffs but the die was already cast at that point. The Jalen Hurts that made some mistakes of youth but made some plays downfield against USC and Ole Miss was not the same QB that took the field in the playoffs. The gunslinger mentality had been thoroughly quashed by then and it shows.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:51 pm to stomp
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There's two things going on. Either some of these people truly don't understand football and the level of competency of a freshman QB, or they're closet bigots.
That doesn't compute because many of those that think Hurts isn't playing well look forward to the possibility of Tagovailoa maybe being able to run AND pass. It is without a doubt that Tua will be a freshman next year, and last time I looked, his skin color (as if that matters) looks a lot like Hurts'.
Know what I mean?
edit: As for Hurts regressing, I agree with the poster that says he hasn't regressed. He is facing better competition but moreover, teams have learned that he isn't really good right now at the forward pass.
I said earlier in the season, more than once actually (it's in the post history) that there was going to come a time he would have to beat the other team with his arm. It didn't take a PhD in football to determine that.
It isn't just his lack of passing efficiency. He isn't really a good game manager right now either, and as I suggested before, I think he's kind of scared.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:52 pm to PowHound
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Dieter dropping that 3rd down pass that would have extended a possible scoring drive makes me want to puke. He makes that catch at the bare minimum more time off the clock that Clemson doesn't have later, and the D gets to rest long enough to finish a cup of gatorade.
There's a reason the guy was at Bowling Green.
Are Cam Sims and Robert Foster really THAT bad?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:55 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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That doesn't compute because many of those that think Hurts isn't playing well look forward to the possibility of Tagovailoa maybe being able to run AND pass. It is without a doubt that Tua will be a freshman next year, and last time I looked, his skin color (as if that matters) looks a lot like Hurts'. Know what I mean?
Tua doesn't wear dreds either.
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