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So apparently we lost the big game
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:31 pm
Hey guys. I'm back from a somewhat long hiatus due to my commitments to the U.S. Navy. While I was gone I got the occasional update about Alabama football, including the heartbreaking loss to Clemson last week.
Sad day. Anyways...looking at the stats for our final three games, the offense wasn't nearly as productive as they were throughout the rest of the season. We put up less than 400 yards against Florida and Washington. What happened? And was the UT-Chattanooga game (the last game I watched) really the blue print game some of us feared that it would be?
Sad day. Anyways...looking at the stats for our final three games, the offense wasn't nearly as productive as they were throughout the rest of the season. We put up less than 400 yards against Florida and Washington. What happened? And was the UT-Chattanooga game (the last game I watched) really the blue print game some of us feared that it would be?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:05 pm to RollTide1987
Seemed like Kiffin checked out at the end of the season. The play calling in the Washington game was particularly awful, so Sark took over for the national title and his gamelan was just to feed Bo. Once Bo got injured in the national title game, he had no backup plan and mysteriously completely abandoned the run.
Against Clemson we went three and out some ridiculous number of times but continued to go up tempo. That made our defense face 99 plays which cost us the game.
Against Clemson we went three and out some ridiculous number of times but continued to go up tempo. That made our defense face 99 plays which cost us the game.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:35 pm to RollTide1987
The defenses started mostly containing the qb and forced him to pass. He couldn't connect often enough. The Clemson game was especially ugly. The qbs favorite play was roll out of the pocket to the right and throw the ball to the sidelines. I think we had only 2 series more than 5 plays.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:38 pm to RollTide1987
Our freshman QB was a freshman that night. It happens. I do expect him to improve.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:50 pm to chattabama
And the 5 dropped passes two which would convert a 3rd down. Our fresh qb drove us down the field with and scored the go ahead. I was pretty impressed with that personally. Hopefully in the off season they work on timing and field vision.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:57 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Our fresh qb drove us down the field with and scored the go ahead. I was pretty impressed with that personall
That was no doubt impressive, but there were so many passes that were off target, times where he should have tucked. Compared to Jake and even Blake, there was a definite dropoff.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:02 pm to chattabama
I agree, he needs to get better but at least his issue isn't arm strength, it's timing and field vision. If he can fix one of those solid he will be twice as good.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:36 pm to chattabama
Jake was so underrated. His last 4 game stretch was all you can ask for.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:47 pm to Gustave
Jake was money. I wish we could have seen him over a two-year stretch.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:09 pm to chattabama
Offensive staff completely lost their mind. Jalen forgot how to pass. When he did pass and throw on target which was rare, our receivers forgot how to catch. Bo was a beast that couldn't be stopped until he broke his leg. Then Sark forgot we have another 5 star and 2 other 4 star backs. They may not be Bo, but they ain't chopped liver.
The defense gave a heroic effort. They held Clemson in check until drives 14-17. That's right, they had 17 drives and 99 plays. We had 16 drives. And 14 of them were 4 plays or less and I think we never held the ball longer than 1:45 if memory serves. Time of possession was roughly 35 to 25 in their favor. They wore our arse out and made us quit. Dabo built Clemson to beat Bama by building another Bama.
You 'member all those pundits that said only Bama could beat Bama. Well, Bama did. Dabo's Bama. I 'member.
The defense gave a heroic effort. They held Clemson in check until drives 14-17. That's right, they had 17 drives and 99 plays. We had 16 drives. And 14 of them were 4 plays or less and I think we never held the ball longer than 1:45 if memory serves. Time of possession was roughly 35 to 25 in their favor. They wore our arse out and made us quit. Dabo built Clemson to beat Bama by building another Bama.
You 'member all those pundits that said only Bama could beat Bama. Well, Bama did. Dabo's Bama. I 'member.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:07 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Since the game I keep reading about receivers dropping passes, but I don't remember a lot of that so I'm watching the game again.
I just every watched every one of our offensive plays of the first half, and Stewart missed one pass that was in his hands, on the sideline, but even that pass he was turned around. #9 slipped in the backfield and missed a screen pass, but he never got his hands on the ball. No other receiver missed a pass that he could get a hand on, so Stewarts drop is the only one.
The last 2 possessions of the half were 5 plays and a punt and 3 plays and a punt. 7 of 15 passing, for 43 yards, in the first half. Defense getting tired and Clemson starting to move the ball.
I'll watch the rest tomorrow, or maybe not. I already know the ending.
entire game
edit: Ridley dropped a screen pass on the left sideline, next to last possession, but it was well covered anyway. Would probably have lost yards with a completion.
I just every watched every one of our offensive plays of the first half, and Stewart missed one pass that was in his hands, on the sideline, but even that pass he was turned around. #9 slipped in the backfield and missed a screen pass, but he never got his hands on the ball. No other receiver missed a pass that he could get a hand on, so Stewarts drop is the only one.
The last 2 possessions of the half were 5 plays and a punt and 3 plays and a punt. 7 of 15 passing, for 43 yards, in the first half. Defense getting tired and Clemson starting to move the ball.
I'll watch the rest tomorrow, or maybe not. I already know the ending.
entire game
edit: Ridley dropped a screen pass on the left sideline, next to last possession, but it was well covered anyway. Would probably have lost yards with a completion.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:51 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Dieter also had a bad drop on 3rd down in the 3rd quarter. Would've been a first down easy.
And before we lay it all at the offense's feet, keep in mind that all season long we won by creating non-offensive touchdowns. No such luck in this game.
We caught a team (and unbelievably talented quarterback) peaking at the right time. It happens.
And before we lay it all at the offense's feet, keep in mind that all season long we won by creating non-offensive touchdowns. No such luck in this game.
We caught a team (and unbelievably talented quarterback) peaking at the right time. It happens.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:24 pm to chattabama
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Jake was money. I wish we could have seen him over a two-year stretch.
No doubt. It was clear that all he needed was reps. He had spent his entire career as a backup or fighting for the job. Once he finally got all the snaps in practice, you could tell. Jake would've been a huge asset this past year. No doubt we beat Clemson with him.
I'd also would've liked to have seen Blake with another off-season under his belt.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:12 am to YellowhammerLA
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Dieter also had a bad drop on 3rd down in the 3rd quarter. Would've been a first down easy.
I remember that one, which is in the 2nd half
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:29 pm to RollTide1987
Best player on offense is Ridley. Essentially benched him with the QB selection. It's not rocket science.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:31 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
6 minutes left in third quarter and Bo still healthy. Biggest play in the game in my opinion, outcome wise. Catch the fricking ball.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:41 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
No there were several more drops.
OJ, Dieter, Ridley, Stewart all had drops. Even worse was the timing of the drops.
Once again Huddie, you seem to live in your own fabricated reality.
Just like when you told us all how amazing Kiffin was right before CNS fired him.
OJ, Dieter, Ridley, Stewart all had drops. Even worse was the timing of the drops.
Once again Huddie, you seem to live in your own fabricated reality.
Just like when you told us all how amazing Kiffin was right before CNS fired him.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 1/21/17 at 7:49 am to PowHound
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No there were several more drops.
As noted, I watched every single offensive play of the first half and the only drops when the receiver got his hand on the ball was Stewart on the sideline, which he had to turn around, and Ridley on the sideline on the screen pass, which was very well covered and he'd surely lost yards had he caught it.
Now, though, just for you, I am going to review all the 2nd half. Tell me now, though, what dropped passes to look for. I know about Dieter's, but what are the others?
I linked the game, in case you're interested in the fact of the matter rather than emotionally defending what was a really bad game for the qb. As noted in another thread: Coker would have won that game, Sims probably would have won that game, McCarron would have pounded them. Hurts lack of a passing game lost a national title. I think he's scared, too, which is why he's so quick to bail and throw out of bounds (more of those than dropped passes). I hope he improves by next year but it's entirely possible we have a Jeremy Johnson on our hands.
edit: Kiffin's offense has set records at Alabama and when he was coaching, we won 3 straight SEC titles, and a national title. Even with Hurts' ineptness, we might have won the game had Kiffin been there to scheme around his lack of passing game, as he had all year long.
Saban is an awesome college football coach. Probably the best ever, but he isn't infallible. He probably made a couple mistakes this year in putting all the eggs in the Jalen Hurts' basket, and letting Kiffin go a few days before the title game.
edit II: Can you not debate a point without personal attacks? You do that a lot. It's about a game, anyway. It's not like people are dissing your family.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:51 am to Huddie Leadbetter
So now hurts is inept? Lol
Again we don't have Coker, sims, or AJ on the team. So that doesn't matter at all.
Again we don't have Coker, sims, or AJ on the team. So that doesn't matter at all.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:01 pm to CrimsonBoz
Far from inept, but far from duel threat against top competition.
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