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re: Rolando continues to be a complete dumb f u c k

Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:51 pm to
Weed can hypothetically cause the same things that riding without a helmet can cause. If you reach far enough, you can come up with hypotheticals on any situation.
What if weed makes you paranoid and you call 911 and waste taxpayers money with that.
What if you have a reaction to some weed that is laced and walk in front of traffic.
What if you fall asleep smoking weed and burn your house down and then neighbors house catches too.
BS hypotheticals, but it could happen
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:55 pm to
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I don't think it should be mandatory to wear a motorcycle helmet either. If I want to risk my life then, that should be my business.
There are a lot of laws that I don't agree with, but I follow them because it's the law. Weed is illegal so I don't do it


"It's a law" is not justification for the law.

We all know it's a law and we all know the consequences. That does not justify the law. Bad laws are littered through our history and they should always be challenged.

All the law does is make things worse. It shouldn't even be an issue.

I live in Arizona, you don't have to wear a helmet here.

I also smoke weed legally.

Seatbelt laws are a good idea. I was once in the personal choice column for that issue, but it turns out it puts other people in danger if you don't wear them. Not just in car, but if you are driving a car it keeps you in your seat after impact etc.


Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:56 pm to
You're just posting a slippery slope fallacy.

Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:57 pm to
I agree that it's ok to question laws. I just don't like the argument that someone shouldn't get in trouble because something shouldn't be a law.
It is a law, follow it or risk getting arrested. Just don't bitch and whine if you get caught
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:00 pm to
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What if weed makes you paranoid and you call 911 and waste taxpayers money with that.
That would still be illegal, just as if you were under the influence of alcohol.
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What if you have a reaction to some weed that is laced and walk in front of traffic.
That would still be illegal, just as if you were under the influence of alcohol. You can't be drunk in public.
quote:

What if you fall asleep smoking weed and burn your house down and then neighbors house catches too.
No different than if you were smoking a cigarette.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:03 pm to
Then laws should be passed to make alcohol and cigarettes illegal
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:05 pm to
I don't have a problem with weed being legalized. I really don't care. What I have a problem with is people thinking that someone shouldn't get in trouble because it's a law they don't agree with.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:10 pm to
Here is a map with helmet laws

A lot of the blue states only require helmets for people under a certain age. Which I agree with
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22541 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:12 pm to
Attention needs to be put to the issue.

With all the information out there, there really isn't an excuse for it anymore. It's just the majority ruling over the minority on a social issue.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:15 pm to
There's a difference between using alcohol/weed/cigarettes and not wearing a helmet/seatbelt. You can choose when to drink or smoke and how much to drink or smoke. It's usually not your decision when you get into a wreck.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:15 pm to
If the government thought they could find a way to regulate it and tax it all, they would legalize it. It's too easy for everyone to grow, so they have an issue with it.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:17 pm to
There are more states that regulate weed than regulate helmets. It should be my choice if I risk my life.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:20 pm to
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If the government thought they could find a way to regulate it and tax it all
They could do that fairly easily.

There's just too many old pieces of shite like Sessions that think Reefer Madness was a documentary.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:22 pm to
How? They can't keep up with everyone who decides to grow their own. Imagine if they tried to tax everyone who grew their own tomatoes
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:31 pm to
Same way they do beer.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:34 pm to
I know people who brew their own beer and don't pay anything
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:38 pm to
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I know people who brew their own beer and don't pay anything

Yes, but the amount of money they will get from selling it in stores will dwarf whatever they may miss out on the people doing it at home.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:41 pm to
I have better odds of getting the helmet law dropped than a weed store opening up in Alabama
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22541 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:23 pm to
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If the government thought they could find a way to regulate it and tax it all, they would legalize it. It's too easy for everyone to grow, so they have an issue with it.


It's not legal to grow it in Arizona unless you have a license and/or a dispensary isn't within 25 miles of your home.

I have many dispensaries near me, so it's illegal for me to grow it.

But since it's only legal medically, there is still a black market I can purchase from. The same thing is true in Colorado as well, where taxes are bypassed.
However, this is to be expected, the black/grey market isn't going to die out overnight.

I personally mostly buy from the dispensary. There is a selection of strains to choose from. I am a Sativa guy, all I buy is Sativa strains, sometimes I'll grab some 70/30 hybrid with a little indica.

Here's a menu for the place I usually go to. They are a little cheaper than most.

LINK

This is basically like going to a liquor store, where you have many different brands of alcohol for you to choose from.

Now, if I buy from the black market, what do I get? Most likely you get whatever the guy has. Maybe you know a good dealer who gets a few different strains, or maybe some good strains. But pretty much the majority of the time, it's just whatever shite the person has.

It's like getting moonshine. Yeah, it's alcohol and it'll do the trick.

And the price difference isn't that much, as long as you know what deals to get.

So you can pretty much expect to see the same thing with as with moonshine or home brewing - a very small market.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:41 pm to
Holy shite it's expensive

I'd just use it for pain, if it was legal here. I don't like taking pain pills.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 11:46 pm
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