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Play calling/signals/confusion--why is it so difficult?

Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:23 am
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:23 am
My point has nothing to do with plays. The plays called are working just fine. What I don't get is how much of a struggle it seems to be to get the play called and relayed in and then called on the field.

Even with new coordinator, terminology & formations, getting the play in can't be this difficult. The players and the qbs obviously know the playbook, so that isn't the problem. There is something wrong with the method of relaying the plays in and it will cause a problem once the team gets into league play.

Honestly, I had begun to wonder if our Qbs weren't just dumb. But that isn't it. Sims and Coker both stare at the sideline, eyes going wide in confusion, like everyone signaling/yelling at them have suddenly started speaking ancient Latin.

I think Kiffin was a great hire, but I hope they figure out a better way to get the play called before it cost the team in a close game.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:27 am to
Yea what we saw yesterday will not work on the road. They've got to get that fixed. Same with the defense, too much confusion if the offense changes formations. Kiffin needs to hone up the relay and Smart needs to dumb it down and let the guys play. We have guys on defense more worried about lining up wrong than they are about letting a guy just run free.

Too many times on defense we try to run the perfect play with the perfect personnel and the offense snaps the ball while we're trying to figure out what that is.

We need to get a hat on the tight end also. That guy was wide open down the seam all day
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by sarc
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:42 am to
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Same with the defense, too much confusion if the offense changes formations. Kiffin needs to hone up the relay and Smart needs to dumb it down and let the guys play. We have guys on defense more worried about lining up wrong than they are about letting a guy just run free. Too many times on defense we try to run the perfect play with the perfect personnel and the offense snaps the ball while we're trying to figure out what that is.


I've been feeling the same way for about a year now. Our system is ideal when going up against a traditional, huddle-up offense but we hardly ever see that anymore. I know we've been trying to speed up and simplify our defensive play calling but we still seem to be confused and having difficulty getting lined up too frequently on D.

Posted by BrocraticMethod
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:30 pm to
Wasn't it Coop who said that Kiffin's system was more "player friendly"? You'd think that would translate to getting plays communicated easier. Hopefully they get it sorted out before a road game.
Posted by observant1
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:38 pm to
I think it will improve. Keep in mind you can't be so simple other teams start to read your signals.

I think it's mad genius to confuse the other side.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:50 pm to
We have a lot of young guys learning new roles. It will improve with more reps.
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:53 pm to
Maybe he meant it was player friendly because he catches all the passes?
Posted by observant1
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:20 pm to
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Maybe he meant it was player friendly because he catches all the passes?


Posted by chattabama
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Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:23 pm to
I wonder if we will move to those picture cards if we continue the no-huddle. Not a fan of them usually, but it might help things run smoother.
Posted by BrocraticMethod
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:29 pm to
Ha, maybe! I seem to remember him saying there was less terminology to remember and it was just a simpler system. So simple they barely get plays called before the play clock runs out, apparently.

What is the point of making the playbook complicated, which Nuss presumably did, though?
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:30 pm to
You can have a perfect play call for just about every situation rather than a play call that works pretty well in most situations.
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