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Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:28 pm
What. A. Mess.
What's next in this foolish saga?
Surely Kay Ivey of all people isn't going to just trot into the Governor's mansion.
What's next in this foolish saga?
Surely Kay Ivey of all people isn't going to just trot into the Governor's mansion.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:15 pm to stomp
Although I don't condone any of this mess, when you accept this type of behavior out of our President it kind of sets a precedent doesn't it?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:37 pm to bamarep
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bamarep
Jesus dude, you people will do anything to take a shot at Obama. It's Obama's fault a man who ran on moral values was caught having an affair and wasting taxpayer dollars. Just :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
And please give some information where our President has displayed this type of behavior.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:45 pm to 420centraltime
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And please give some information where our President has displayed this type of behavior.
Bill Clinton and several other presidents have displayed this type of behavior
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you people will do anything to take a shot at Obama
dont be so sensitive
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This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:50 pm to stomp
I am surprised it took this long for a wayward, ITAT barner to try and throw this at the feet of Alabama football.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:27 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Yeah, he's obviously referencing ol Bill
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:30 pm to 420centraltime
Well why would you be so quick to assume he's referring to Obama when there have been no accusations of infidelity towards him?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:45 pm to bamarep
I didn't really care about Bill's incident, and I don't really care about Bentley's alleged affair. That's between them and their spouse and family, or ex-spouse in Bentley's case.
Bentley's situation has a whole lot more apparent egregiousness to it that I'm much more interested in. Why wasn't his top aid on the state payroll? Why was she paid through a shadowy non-profit? Why did he allegedly ask the director of the ALEA lie on an affidavit? Why did they have a safe deposit box together?
We may never get answers to all the questions, but there is certainly a lot more intrigue to this scandal.
Bentley's situation has a whole lot more apparent egregiousness to it that I'm much more interested in. Why wasn't his top aid on the state payroll? Why was she paid through a shadowy non-profit? Why did he allegedly ask the director of the ALEA lie on an affidavit? Why did they have a safe deposit box together?
We may never get answers to all the questions, but there is certainly a lot more intrigue to this scandal.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:09 am to 420centraltime
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Yeah, he's obviously referencing ol Bill
You are either way too involved with the 420 or very young if you thought he was referencing anyone but Clinton. The situations right down to the denials are virtually identical.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:29 am to The Spleen
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I didn't really care about Bill's incident, and I don't really care about Bentley's alleged affair. That's between them and their spouse and family, or ex-spouse in Bentley's case.
Bentley's situation has a whole lot more apparent egregiousness to it that I'm much more interested in. Why wasn't his top aid on the state payroll? Why was she paid through a shadowy non-profit? Why did he allegedly ask the director of the ALEA lie on an affidavit? Why did they have a safe deposit box together?
We may never get answers to all the questions, but there is certainly a lot more intrigue to this scandal.
I care about the affairs side because I expect better out of my chief executives. At the very least, I expect them to respect the office enough to keep their indiscretions out of it.
Putting that aside, how she was paid is an issue but not that much of one. It has been happening forever, hence the term 'kitchen cabinet' at the federal level. Bentley's situation is only different in that he brought her into the meetings instead of doing like the others and going to her for advice right after the meetings ended.
The Hubbard case is the big deal. From all appearances, Bentley/Mason tried to kill it. That would be a big deal any time, but throw in that he is a part of many of the charges and it becomes massive. Maybe massive enough to draw the attention of the Feds.
Anyhow, he is done. If he has a shred of pride left, he will resign before the legislature impeaches him. I also wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him sharing living arrangements with Don Siegleman.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:21 am to 420centraltime
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Jesus dude, you people will do anything to take a shot at Obama. It's Obama's fault a man who ran on moral values was caught having an affair and wasting taxpayer dollars. Just And please give some information where our President has displayed this type of behavior.
Jesus dude, learn a little history. I was talking about Clinton. There's plenty our sitting President gives me to dislike him over but he seems to be a loyal husband and good family man and for that, I'll give him credit.
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:23 am to The Spleen
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I didn't really care about Bill's incident, and I don't really care about Bentley's alleged affair. That's between them and their spouse and family, or ex-spouse in Bentley's case.
You seriously don't care that he used your taxpayer money to get a side piece of arse? Seriously?
That, my friends is why there's no accountability with our elected officials.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:50 am to stomp
For as long as men have been in power they have had affairs
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:14 am to bamarep
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You seriously don't care that he used your taxpayer money to get a side piece of arse?
It bothers me that he used taxpayer money to hide the affair, if it proven that's what he did. The affair itself doesn't bother me.
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That, my friends is why there's no accountability with our elected officials.
Meh. I'm holding him accountable for much more serious allegations. Instructing the director of the ALEA to LIE on an affidavit so as to cover his arse is much more serious than him having an affair. His wife is the one that should hold him accountable for that, and she did.
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:16 am to MontyFranklyn
The affair doesn't bother me as much as the allocation of state funds and jobs to the whore and her husband. Alabama politics is the worst. Bentley is just another terrible governor in a long line of terrible governors.
Don't even get me started on Roy Moore.
Walt Maddox should take over and run this shite like a champ.
Don't even get me started on Roy Moore.
Walt Maddox should take over and run this shite like a champ.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 9:30 am to RollDatRoll
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Walt Maddox should take over and run this shite like a champ.
From all appearances, he does a good job but that doesn't reflect on how he could do as governor,
It is much easier to be effective as mayor than it is as governor. As a mayor, you have the ability to have a very granular level of control and have intimate knowledge of the area you serve. You can meet most needs with a single phone call. Those you can't can be addressed at the council meeting next week - and at that meeting you will be working with at most a dozen people.
You don't have that ability as governor. You can't call public works to get a crew over to a street, you can't know the needs of the whole state, and if you need the legislature you then must deal with well over 100 representatives who only meet once a year.
I've been a mayor and I work in downtown state government.
If I still lived in the city, I could see myself being a mayor again. There isn't enough money in the state to make me want to be governor.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 9:54 am to RollDatRoll
Roy Moore will preside over impeachment hearings and Kay Ivey would be the next governor until 2018.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 9:59 am to JustGetItRight
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If he has a shred of pride left, he will resign before the legislature impeaches him.
Wouldn't impeachment proceedings begin in the House, which means Mike Hubbard would have to bring it to the floor? Would he do that knowing Bentley will most likely be called to the witness stand in his trial? How much dirt does Bentley have on Hubbard?
I'm not so confident impeachment proceedings would get very far with Hubbard's trial on the horizon.
What a mess. And these are the guys that ran on a pledge to clean up the corruption in Montgomery. They've actually made it worse.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:05 am to JustGetItRight
You are right, Maddox just isn't qualified to be governor since all he's run is one city. Maybe he should go to medical school or a school of dentistry so he can "earn his stripes"
He would be the best option we've had in at least 20 years. He may not be "qualified" but he has a clean nose, and has been able to bring about progressive change in an area that has resisted it for decades. He's done a lot for Tuscaloosa and he hasn't been corrupted in Montgomery.
He would be the best option we've had in at least 20 years. He may not be "qualified" but he has a clean nose, and has been able to bring about progressive change in an area that has resisted it for decades. He's done a lot for Tuscaloosa and he hasn't been corrupted in Montgomery.
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:15 am to The Spleen
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They've actually made it worse.
Got to disagree on this part. The previous bunch did the same thing but there was no such thing as social media back then. Heck, a newspaper reporter documented state troopers picking up Bill Baxley's girlfriend at the airport (state plane IIRC) and driving her to the apartment he kept for their meetings. That is what led Lucy to dump him after Guy Hunt beat him.
Lowell Barron got a couple of 95mph + speeding tickets so he not only got them fixed, he pushed a law through the legislature that forbid police departments from cities with less that 19,000 people from writing speeding tickets on the interstate.
I have personally sat in a meeting where the mayor of my town was directly told if he didn't give a certain level contribution to a D gov's campaign our town would not get a grant. He didn't and we didn't.
The original R takeover actually passed real ethics reform, which is why Hubbard is in the mess he is in now. The problems are 1) a lot of those guys saw why Montgomery is and got out and 2) a lot of the others figured out how to milk the system and took the opportunity. Nothing will change regardless of party until the state enacts legislative term limits.
Hubbard's got limited ability to control impeachment. The trial is in the Senate, the House just passes the articles. Further, If anything, I think Hubbard would like to see Bentley discredited as much as possible. A disgraced and impeached gov probably makes a less effective witness than a sitting one.
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