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re: Nick Saban, Greg Byrne meet to discuss home-and-home series

Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:16 am to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:16 am to
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Those games are offered and accepted, often long before an opponent is known. The Kickoff commission and networks moreso broker the opponent. Louisville is a good opener for 2018. Alabama just got shafted for 2019 with Duke. No other ACC program stepped forward. Either because they didn't want to play Alabama or had previous scheduling conflicts.


Louisville is a shaft as L Jackson will be gone. Duke may actually be a better game in the end.

Either way the neutral sites suck as there is no real game day experience. It is all a Disney created atmosphere to make you think big game day and not really genuine at all just about the dollar.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:24 am to
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Either way the neutral sites suck as there is no real game day experience. It is all a Disney created atmosphere to make you think big game day and not really genuine at all just about the dollar.

When's the last time you went to a game in Tuscaloosa?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72129 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:25 am to
I've enjoyed everyone I've attended in Arlington. Hell, I feel this Wisconsin and USC kickoffs were more festive than the Cotton Bowl against Michigan State.

I want to attend a chick-fil-a Kickoff soon too.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72129 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:29 am to
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When's the last time you went to a game in Tuscaloosa?


Very NFL like these days unless it's a big game. I've only taken my wife to a handful of Alabama games in Tuscaloosa. The last one was Fresno State. I think she was disappointed at the atmosphere and turnout.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:00 pm to
Just my opinion, but if you do a home and home, you've got to make it opening weekend of the season for a few reasons.

1) the hype. People talked about Bama vs. FSU for a month. People talked about OSU vs OU for a week.

2) gives your team a great strive point in the off season that a scrub team can't provide you. youre more prepared for weeks 2 - end of season when you open strong than if you open with a meh (and yes, I realize the injuries we got week one...that sucks, but could have happened in any week).

3) planning for fans.

If you're going to do a home and home, I'd prefer it be some place where we have a recruiting benefit to be there. I'm thinking of Miami or Texas, specifically. No real value to go play in Ann Arbor other than for fans to make that trip.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Either way the neutral sites suck as there is no real game day experience


quote:

Either way the neutral sites suck as there is no real game day experience. It is all a Disney created atmosphere to make you think big game day and not really genuine at all just about the dollar.


C'mon man I was at the USC game last year and it was crazy fun.

That said they are only good when its someone like USC, Michigan, FSU. Wisconsin was a dud. I wish we could get rid of Louisville and Duke.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12214 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:03 pm to
Bama has to get revenge on Louisville for that Fiesta Bowl loss after the 91 season.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11826 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:08 pm to
Its been three years since I have been in TTown for a game and try to see them at least once a year but only lately on the road.

The only neutral games I have been to is Atlanta and maybe why I do not enjoy it as Atlanta is just not that exciting of a city.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
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The only neutral games I have been to is Atlanta and maybe why I do not enjoy it as Atlanta is just not that exciting of a city

Tuscaloosa isn't an exciting city, either.

I really don't see much of a difference between 99% of the games in Tuscaloosa, and a kick off game in Atlanta (besides Atlanta having a much nicer stadium).
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11826 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:52 pm to
I have enjoyed the game day experience far more in TTown then in Atlanta. But that is my opinion and yes it has changed a lot in TTown since my first game in 78.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:18 pm to
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I am in the minority but I like the neutral site games. I get the appeal of the home and away but we may not be able to attract the same quality opponent. FSU might not be interested in a home, away.


Go back and look at all the great matchups that have happened. There will ALWAYS be someone interested. Oklahoma and Ohio State played each other. You think they wouldn't play Alabama?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:21 pm to
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That said they are only good when its someone like USC, Michigan, FSU. Wisconsin was a dud. I wish we could get rid of Louisville and Duke.


West Virginia was also a dud.

And here's the thing I resent the most: They are going to charge you College Football Playoff semifinal prices in 2019 to see Alabama play the absolute worst team in the ACC last year. Cheapest ticket this year was $125. In 2019 it will probably be $150 to play Duke. Fricking Duke.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:24 pm to
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Just my opinion, but if you do a home and home, you've got to make it opening weekend of the season for a few reasons.


40,000 Georgia fans who made the trip to South Bend say that you're wrong.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:26 pm to
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Tuscaloosa isn't an exciting city, either.



Oh, no doubt it isn't exciting to you and me.

But anyone who went to the Penn State game in 2010 likely met, as i did, many Penn State fans who were effing thrilled to be there. One group of PS guys who I invited to tailgate even made commemorative T-shirts and passed them out to people.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:29 pm to
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Louisville is a good opener for 2018.


bullshite.

quote:

Alabama just got shafted for 2019 with Duke.


No one held a gun to the head of anyone in Tuscaloosa. Why in the wide wide world of sports would we have ever agreed to play effing Duke in a neutral site opener? They have exactly one ACC championship game appearance...which they lost.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:31 pm to
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During the Fresno St game Greg Byrne was making the rounds throughout the stands talking to various random people, shaking hands, etc. Just doing the public relations.

Maybe they're becoming more open to listening to what people want?


I'm liking him more and more all the time.

And It sounds like he's the one initiating this discussion.

I hope he took note of the empty seats.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:34 pm to
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I think Bama is under contract to play in Dallas in 2020. So the earliest would be 2022.


We had a contract to play MSU home and away, which we got out of.

Contracts are made to be gotten out of.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:41 pm to
One last thing: everyone talks about the money these neutral site games bring in.

Go back and check those top ten most valuable college football programs that was listed by the Wall Street Journal a few days ago.. The top ten were Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, LSU, Michigan, Notre Dame, Georgia, Tennessee, and Auburn.

Only Alabama currently follows a policy of refusing to play home-and-home out of conference games.

So don't tell me that Alabama fans have to schlep down to effing Orlando in order for this team to make a hefty profit.

Edit: by the way, we aren't even playing a Power 5 opponent in that game.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:42 pm to
It's being talked about enough, so that's a good step in the right direction.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:44 pm to
Would absolutely love this.

I'm completely over the neutral site opener thing.

They should be done once in awhile, not every single damn year.

College football belongs on college campuses.
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