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Looks like the offense may be changing

Posted on 2/21/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Bamafan15
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 7:42 pm
David Womack (father of the Womack Bama lineman)

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Back to football, I'm hearing we're changing the offense #RollTide
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 7:47 pm to
The era of Macsiah is upon us
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
For frick's sake Daboll has been with the program for 32 minutes.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:10 pm to
I doubt anybody outside the team will know a lot about it before the FSU game. The A-Day scrimmage probably won't reveal very much.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:22 pm to
A-Day: Bama comes out with the same offense as last year. Same mistakes. Can't move the ball. We lose our minds. Saban says we've gotta work on a few things and get ready for FSU.

FSU game: Saban throws us all off and lines us up in the wishbone and says "Run Daboll".
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Can't move the ball. We lose our minds.


Et tu Tua
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:02 pm to
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For frick's sake Daboll has been with the program for 32 minutes.


And he was clearly hired to tweak/change the offense. Why is that so hard to understand? Trust Saban. He's averaging right around 12 wins a season.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:10 pm to
I don't think it changes that much. Just more a blend of pro style with no-huddle/read option/spread philosophies, that's geared to ball control. Watch some of the Patriot's offense. It can be ran effectively with a running QB.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:26 pm to
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"Run Daboll".

I hope I don't see this too much this year. Thankfully Verne Lundquist isn't around to say it during broadcasts.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:28 pm to
The good news is FSU isn't going to know what to prepare for
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 7:57 am to
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The good news is FSU isn't going to know what to prepare for


But it's a pretty good bet they'll prepare to stop the running game as best as possible and make us beat them in the air. If we have just a decent intermediate game, and hit on an occasional long ball, I'm not sure anybody can stop our running game with a healthy Scarbrough and the other guys. Hopefully Najee Harris will show out too.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:31 am to
Yup. I think the new passing game "system" is going to make it easier for Jalen to improve significantly as a passer.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
I sure hope so bc we aren't winning another title if he keeps passing like he did the last few games
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:55 pm to
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And he was clearly hired to tweak/change the offense. Why is that so hard to understand? Trust Saban. He's averaging right around 12 wins a season.


My comment wasn't about what he may or may not do. It was directed to the fact that he barely has had enough time to move to Tuscaloosa let alone start installing an offense.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:38 pm to
All of this talk about updating the offense. The two times we have run this type offense we get bounced from the playoffs. Every national title of the Saban tenure has been won with a ball control offense out of a pro set.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:51 pm to
Former NFL QB Brady Quinn on what to expect from new Alabama OC Brian Daboll | SEC Country
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Brady Quinn played quarterback under new Alabama OC Brian Daboll. Twice.

The former Notre Dame signal caller played for the Cleveland Browns and the Kansas City Chiefs during Daboll’s stints as offensive coordinator with each NFL franchise. So if there is anyone qualified to tell Jalen Hurts how things might go under center in a Daboll offense, it’s Quinn.

On Wednesday, Quinn joined The Cole Cubelic Show to shed some light on the personality and coaching style of Nick Saban’s latest hire. Daboll’s former quarterback gave a pretty solid endorsement, which included a glimpse into the former New England Patriots assistant’s offensive philosophy.

Here’s what Quinn experienced from a quarterback’s perspective under Daboll’s leadership:

“He likes to give you answers. And when I say that, I mean he likes to do things with the formation and the preparation to help you understand what the defense is trying to do,” Quinn said. “I don’t believe it’s going to be one of these college systems where players are looking over towards the sidelines. I think it’s going to be something where, if that’s the case, maybe they’re confirming what the defense is or something like that. But the quarterback, whether that is Jalen Hurts or whoever it may be, they’re going to know what the defense is trying to accomplish. They’re going to have the answer of where they want to work or which side of the field or what their progression is going to be before they snap the football. And, to me, that’s incredibly empowering, because as a quarterback if you can know where you want to go with the football before the snap that’s going to give you so much more confidence.”

Quinn followed that description with a statement that is likely to make many Alabama fans who were frustrated with Lane Kiffin’s brand of football quite happy.

“I can tell you another thing, something he’s going to do is he’s going to utilize the running backs that Alabama has and he’s going to run the football… he likes to run the football.”

Quinn also made a prediction for who would be under center for the Crimson Tide in the Daboll offense:

“I think Jalen Hurts is going to be the guy, and I think he will improve. And when it comes down to it, Brian Daboll is going to do things that play to the strengths of Jalen Hurts. He’s not going to put him in a position where he’s going to struggle or try to make him do something that he doesn’t feel comfortable doing.”
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:56 am to
Two ex-NFL QBs give the lowdown on new Alabama OC Brian Daboll | AL.com
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In 2010, Jake Delhomme was nearing the end of his career. By then, he had pretty much seen it all. He was 35 years old, beginning his first and only season with the Cleveland Browns.

His offensive coordinator was Brian Daboll, who was a few months younger than the veteran quarterback. Delhomme doesn't have many fond memories from that time because an ankle injury limited him to four starts during his short tenure with the AFC North doormat. But he did come away with a favorable impression of the man shouting plays into his helmet headset.

In their brief time together, Daboll earned Delhomme's respect and taught him a few things, too.

"I loved being around him," Delhomme said. "He's a fantastic X-and-O football coach.... I was lucky enough to have a pretty good background after playing for a while.  But there were still many things I learned from him, the nuances of a defense and things that I thought were fantastic."

It's why Dehomme is convinced Daboll will have success at Alabama, where he was hired as offensive coordinator earlier this week. Delhomme, the former Carolina Panthers star, described Daboll as a "great teacher."

"I always felt like I was getting better by being around him because I was acquiring more knowledge," said former quarterback Chad Pennington.

Daboll was Pennington's position coach for one season with the New York Jets in 2007 during which the former Marshall star posted a 1-7 record and was eventually benched. Even as his tenure as the Jets' starter was nearing an end, Pennington grew close to Daboll, who instructed the quarterback on what to look for when reading coverages. Having coached and played defense, Daboll understood how to attack one. 

"Whether three-by-one, or two-by-two, the motion, a shift, what those things do to a defense, Brian knows that," Delhomme said. "That's what helps him as an offensive coach."

So does his willingness to adapt, according to Pennington. Game plans evolve week to week based on the opponent. It's part of the fabric of the New England Patriots system in which Daboll was indoctrinated and whose hallmark is its multiplicity. 

"Just because one thing or one scheme or one thought process worked one week doesn't mean he will implement and employ the same thought process the next," Pennington said. "He's going to be versatile and not be stubborn, saying, 'OK, we're going to do this and we're not going to care what the defense does.' They really pay attention to who they are playing against and how to attack them."

It's no wonder then that Daboll became the leading candidate to replace Steve Sarkisian -- or more accurately -- Lane Kiffin. Kiffin proved his worth to Alabama coach Nick Saban by showing he could be flexible. He incorporated a hurry-up mode and built his offense around exploiting individual mismatches, which required strategy adjustments every game. 

"He's done a phenomenal job in the three years that he has been with us relative to taking the players that we had and actually molding a system, especially for the quarterback to be successful in and I think those are signs of tremendous maturity as a coach who is just not committed to a system but is committed to doing the things he has to do to help players be successful," Saban said last December.

The one knock on Kiffin was his ability to develop the technical aspects of Jalen Hurts, the rising sophomore who has yet to grow into a refined passer. Pennington is uncertain whether Daboll is capable of making Hurts better in that regard, expressing surprise that Alabama didn't assign another staff member to coach quarterbacks.

"They may be doing that in the future," Pennington said. "I don't think [Daboll's] expertise is in fundamental quarterback work or being a quarterback technician. I do think he can improve the quarterback from a scheme and read perspective."

Then again, that may be good enough for Hurts, who has considerable arm strength but has struggled to process the action in front of him. In October, Saban acknowledged that the coaching staff had limited the scope of Hurts' reads to one half of the field and streamlined the playbook because they didn't want to give him too much to digest. With Daboll in charge, Hurts could conceivably benefit even if the same restrictions are in place.

"New England's stuff is very concept driven and quarterbacks will understand concepts for each side of the field," Pennington explained. "There will be certain concepts and those concepts have certain rules. [The Patriots] have always been very good about the spacing of their routes and that everything has a rhyme and reason... I think it's a quarterback-friendly system and it gives the quarterback a chance to really show his skill-set and be the field general of the offense."

And as Delhomme said, "The best coaches put their players in a position to succeed."

"I think Brian is going to find out Jalen Hurts' strengths and will focus on his strengths," he continued. "Brian will make him a very cerebral quarterback. That's one thing Brian will do. This kid will feel very confident walking onto the field. [Daboll] won't sleep to make sure his players are extremely well-prepared and he does a great job of teaching to make guys want to learn."

Delhomme is living proof. Back in 2010, with Daboll whispering in his ear, the old dog picked up a few more tricks before they eventually parted ways.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:19 am to
Good stuff, especially from Delhomme. Makes me feel better about things.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:16 am to
"Yeah, I probably am right."
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35444 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:40 am to
Hire CP10 as QB Coach when they eventually pass the 10th Assistant.

One because he's probably one of the most cerebral QBs over the past 15 years that had to adapt after multiple arm surgeries, but mainly so folks ask if I'm related to him again
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