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re: Looking back at Texas's pursuit of Saban
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:01 pm to stomp
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:01 pm to stomp
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That's my biggest fear. Boosters running Nick off after a down year just to get another clueless puppet they can control.
This was a huge problem at LSU too before Saban (Ran off Arnsparger, then hired Archer-Hallman-Dinardo in succession) but having Saban was a real wake up call in terms of how you have to go about hiring and providing for coaches. Les has obviously been pretty successful and when he's gone I have no fear at all of going back to the old mentality. I don't know how it would be at bama obviously but just from our experience that wasn't something that happened.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:08 pm to chattabama
Saban responds to the article:
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PENSACOLA, Fla. - Nick Saban coaches at Alabama. He traveled to Northwest Florida to speak to a booster club on Tuesday night.
Talk of Saban and Texas can cross state lines freely.
Saban offered slight detail about his agent Jimmy Sexton's conversations with Texas, saying Sexton called him "about 15 times" to gauge his interest in the job.
The New York Times released an excerpt Saturday from an upcoming unauthorized Saban biography by author Monte Burke that detailed his flirtation with the Texas job in 2012 and 2013.
Saban didn't reference the excerpt directly on Tuesday, but did address Texas - almost a semi-annual obligation since 2012 - when asked by moderator Jerry Pate, an Alabama alumnus and 1976 U.S. Open Champion.
"I have an agent (Jimmy Sexton), which most coaches have, and when somebody is interested in you, they call your agent, which they did," Saban said Tuesday night at the field house at the University of West Florida. "The agent calls you, and you tell the agent 'I'm interested' or 'I'm not interested.' So (Sexton) called me about 15 times about Texas, and every time he called I said I'm not interested in talking to them, and I never will be. That's the story. He did his job, I did my job."
The excerpt does not quote Saban or Sexton, and it does not specifically mention any direct conversations between Saban and anyone involved with Texas or its football program. It does detail several of Sexton's conversations with people around the UT program until Saban's contract extension with Alabama was signed in December of 2013, falling somewhat in line with Saban's explanation about Sexton's constant gauging.
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:57 pm to chattabama
I was disappointed with the NYT article from the start. It read like a "I've got a source" post.
Someone somebody knew had a friend, a well respected friend, who knew Saban's agent.
This person was a person that Saban's agent wouldn't lie to because, you know, he is well respected. Things were said to this person to make other people, not named, believe that Saban was interested in the Texas job.
Macko Brown was contacted by a Big Hat and Macko Brown shot down the Big Hat and told the Big Hat that he was Big Coach and wasn't leaving Big Job.
Much maneuvering behind the scenes occurred by people very close to the Texas program and very powerful, oh, very powerful.
They still couldn't work it out and Saban, disappointed and distressed, had to resort back to the drudgery of the Alabama job.
Basically, it comes off as a lot of butthurt that Saban had the gall to turn down TEXAS and they need to justify it in some way.
Someone somebody knew had a friend, a well respected friend, who knew Saban's agent.
This person was a person that Saban's agent wouldn't lie to because, you know, he is well respected. Things were said to this person to make other people, not named, believe that Saban was interested in the Texas job.
Macko Brown was contacted by a Big Hat and Macko Brown shot down the Big Hat and told the Big Hat that he was Big Coach and wasn't leaving Big Job.
Much maneuvering behind the scenes occurred by people very close to the Texas program and very powerful, oh, very powerful.
They still couldn't work it out and Saban, disappointed and distressed, had to resort back to the drudgery of the Alabama job.
Basically, it comes off as a lot of butthurt that Saban had the gall to turn down TEXAS and they need to justify it in some way.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:50 am to Alert Mi
There was nothing new in it either. Every bit of it I had already read in the message board fodder of the time.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:46 pm to Snout Spout
i wouldn't blame him for having interest in the job anyways.
he should feel lucky he didn't fall for that trap. Texas as an athletic department is as close to a dumpster fire as there is.
patterson and Saban would have never gotten along.
patterson is an idiot for no realizing the opportunity he had.
he should feel lucky he didn't fall for that trap. Texas as an athletic department is as close to a dumpster fire as there is.
patterson and Saban would have never gotten along.
patterson is an idiot for no realizing the opportunity he had.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:09 am to stomp
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That's my biggest fear. Boosters running Nick off after a down year just to get another clueless puppet they can control.
I don't see any boosters running Nick off. I do fear those boosters once Saban leaves. Saban leaving will create such a void of leadership that if the next coach can't fill it, those same slimey boosters that ruined our program before might find their way back in again. Its not the big boosters that worry me (PBJ, Angus, etc.). We don't have a Lowder problem. Its the small timers (like Albetar) that worry me.
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