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narddogg81
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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I don't know Cotton's living situation, but when you are living on campus/in a dorm, riding and smoking is a very common occurrence. 
he doesn't have a friend with an apartment t or house off campus? Driving around is literally begging to get caught. Luckily we once again have a fantastic ol haul, plus some guys on campus waiting for a shot. Getting caught smoking weed when you lost your spot to korren kirvin last season is not a way to win it back. Didn't Alphonse Taylor get arrested about the same time last year for DUI? Right guard spot is cursed


alabamabuckeye
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
So Lester got caught... holding?


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Xignals
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
Will this open up a spot for the 4-star that had to grey shirt?


taylormade
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
i hope he was bumping tupac


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CrimsonCrusade
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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I mean it's stupid but kids do this everyday while in school. We certainly did. I don't think this speaks a larger problem at all. I think some of y'all are starting to get old


What he's saying is, they're doing it in blatant disregard of team rules and being very cavalier about it.

I don't really have a problem with marijuana consumption on a moral level. But the bandwagon fallacy (everybody's doing it!) doesn't legitimize being a dumbass and jeopardizing your future. I just graduated from UA in December. Never touched marijuana or any other drug and, unlike Cotton, I don't have a future where I could be making millions right out of college. So obviously it's a choice, and a stupid one at that, especially for someone in Cotton's position. The utility derived from smoking pot is so outweighed by the risk when you're in his shoes. Dumb.

Also, cocaine seems to be the drug of choice at UA these days anyway.
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pvilleguru
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Will this open up a spot for the 4-star that had to grey shirt?

For weed? No.


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UAtide11
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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Also, cocaine seems to be the drug of choice at UA these days anyway.

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these days



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Funky Tide 8
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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he doesn't have a friend with an apartment t or house off campus?


No clue.

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Driving around is literally begging to get caught


I wasn't saying that it isn't dumb, but college kids in general are pretty dumb.



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Gary Busey
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Lester Cottonmouth





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PBD4BAMA
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
thought his career was pretty much over anyways...concussions???


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Iron Lion
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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Lester Cottonmouth


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TheDre
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
When I was in school, it depended on the time of day. If it was day time you just cruised jack warner back and forth with the a/c on blast. At night you never drove and hot boxed. More likely to get pulled over regardless and at night and less cops patrol parking lots if you found an inconspicuous apartment complex. Getting a bit brazzen there Lester....do your thing but be smart about it.


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mrbroker
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
making it legal in all 50 states does not mean the school or the NCAA will take it off the table. It is legal in a number of states and those schools athletes cant do it without having consequences should they be caught.


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Five0
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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Likely true, but driving and smoking should probably still be against the law.


Oh, it is.

Usually will depend on the DA in the jurisdiction telling officers to charge folks driving and smoking under:

Section 32-5A-191

Driving while under influence of alcohol, controlled substances, etc.

(a) A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any vehicle while:

(1) There is 0.08 percent or more by weight of alcohol in his or her blood;

(2) Under the influence of alcohol;

(3) Under the influence of a controlled substance to a degree which renders him or her incapable of safely driving;

(4) Under the combined influence of alcohol and a controlled substance to a degree which renders him or her incapable of safely driving; or

(5) Under the influence of any substance which impairs the mental or physical faculties of such person to a degree which renders him or her incapable of safely driving.

At my shop we are asked/told to charge under (5).

This is already a long post, but I can get into the weeds

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as to why if you like.


Funky Tide 8
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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to a degree which renders him or her incapable of safely driving.



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Five0
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
As a matter of fact, I am in favor of an actual scientific study to see just how marijuana affects one's ability to operate a vehicle. Anonymous funding so there is no bias or undue influence with a control group and various levels of dosing. Give me that and a test that can detect the amount of intoxicant in a person's system down to the day or hour and I am all for letting the chips fall where they may.


uofarolltide
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
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As a matter of fact, I am in favor of an actual scientific study to see just how marijuana affects one's ability to operate a vehicle. Anonymous funding so there is no bias or undue influence with a control group and various levels of dosing. Give me that and a test that can detect the amount of intoxicant in a person's system down to the day or hour and I am all for letting the chips fall where they may.

They've already done this, and found that being high doesn't cause someone to drive any worse than being sober.

Wow, so a college kid smoked weed in a country where it's legal in half of the states anyway. Who tf cares at all?


Five0
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
Link this unbiased scientific study please.


Fells
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re: Lester Cotton arrested Friday night, riding around smokin
Here's an article of the study, with a link inside

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A federal study of drug and alcohol crash risk finds drivers who have been drinking are much more likely to crash than drivers who have consumed pot.

The study also found, after adjusting for demographic factors like age, gender and race, as well as alcohol use, marijuana users were not at a greater risk to crash than sober drivers.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) conducted the study in Virginia Beach, Virginia. It compared more than 3,095 drivers in the area who were involved in crashes, and twice as many controls (6,190) who were not.

The findings diverge from several studies on marijuana and driving, but the NHTSA believes this new study is the most comprehensive.

“We believe this to be the largest, the most closely controlled study of its kind that’s been conducted in the United States,” said Gordon Trowbridge, a spokesman for NHTSA.


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Summary and Discussion
This study of crash risk found a statistically significant
increase in unadjusted crash risk for drivers who tested
positive for use of illegal drugs (1.21 times), and THC
specifically (1.25 times). However, analyses incorporating
adjustments for age, gender, ethnicity, and alcohol concentration
level did not show a significant increase in levels of
crash risk associated with the presence of drugs. This finding
indicates that these other variables (age, gender ethnicity
and alcohol use) were highly correlated with drug use
and account for much of the increased risk associated with
the use of illegal drugs and with THC.
This study found a statistically significant association
between driver alcohol level and crash risk both before
and after adjustment for demographic factors. These findings
were generally consistent with similar analyses conducted
in prior crash risk studies. Findings from this study
indicate that crash risk grows exponentially with increasing
BrAC. The study shows that at low levels of alcohol
(e.g., 0.03 BrAC) the risk of crashing is increased by 20 percent,
at moderate alcohol levels (0.05 BrAC) risk increases
to double that of sober drivers, and at a higher level (0.10
BrAC) the risk increases to five and a half times. At a BrAC
of 0.15, the risk is 12 times, and by BrACs of 0.20+ the risk
is over 23 times higher.
This is the first large-scale case control study in the United
States to assess the crash risks associated with both drug
and alcohol use by drivers. Findings from this study provide
valuable insights concerning the current nature of the
impaired driving problem. However, considering the complexity
of the impaired driving issue, especially concerning
use of drugs other than alcohol, and the challenges of
obtaining relevant information on this topic, these findings
should be viewed in the context of the established
body of scientific evidence on the subject.


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