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Is Sims a better QB than McCarron?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:31 am
Hypotheticals can be fun but how good would Sims have been if he started the past 3 years? Would he have won more than AJ? Is Kiffin to get the credit? With him as OC would Bama be looking at 4 in a row?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:34 am to
Kiffen is a big difference but I also think that the team actually wants to play for Sims. He unites the entire team.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:39 am to
They are both really good. Sims can make any throw that AJ can make(and more) IMO, but AJ was a really heady game manager. Obviously Sims is much more dangerous and effective with his legs.

I think its safe to say that Sims was better than AJ in their respective first years starting.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:43 am to
No.

Kiffin is a better OC than Nuss.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 10:43 am
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:43 am to
All I can do is look at the on the field transgressions and say that:





Yes. Sims is better than McCarron.
Posted by Swm323
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:51 am to
Sims has been great and has probably become a lot of fans all - time favorite player. You cannot speak enough about his dedication and determination to play QB at Bama. However, do not forget how good AJ was when he was here. And AJ didn't have as good an OC as Sims has had
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:07 am to
Sims is definitely better than 1st year AJ. Sims has had a better season than AJ had any year except 2012, in which aj threw 30 td and like 3 picks. The difference of course is with OCs, AJ would likely have put up some big numbers under Kiffin, but i dont think we would have been as successful this year with aj as we were with sims, because aj would have been sacked about 20-30 times, and cant move the chains with his feet (although he did a time or two in his career). AJ likely would not have needed all the sideline communication though, so we probably would not have struggled on the road so much. Both are great players. Its hard not to let AJs douchey behavior after he left color perception of him.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:15 am to
I've got nothing but love for Sims, but AJ's body of work much greater than Sims. If not for the BS FG kick return, there's a good chance AJ qbs 3 NC teams.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:27 am to
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The difference of course is with OCs, AJ would likely have put up some big numbers under Kiffin, but i dont think we would have been as successful this year with aj as we were with sims, because aj would have been sacked about 20-30 times, and cant move the chains with his feet (although he did a time or two in his career)


Holy hypothetical Batman.

20 or 30 times? Last year AJ had 10 sacks. So, he would double or triple that this year?

I would argue that we would have been a better team if AJ was granted a magical fifth year of eligibility. We certainly wouldn't have lost to Ole Miss, but that's just my opinion, but I'm not going to throw out crazy projections like AJ would triple his sack numbers in one year.

People forget how good AJ was, and the fact that he is quite possibly the best QB to ever play at Alabama when it comes to manipulating the pocket and extending the amount of time he has to throw the ball.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:30 am to
Its a shame we won't have 3 years of Sims to better compare the two.

AJ was somewhere between a gamemanager and gamebreaker. He was both underrated & overrated at the same time. AJ was a winner, but his attitude probably contributed to our play down the stretch in 2013. He wasn't a "great" QB in terms of his ability but he was better than a McElroy or JPW type QB.

IMO, if we had AJ this year, we lose another game or two. Blake has made plays (running & passing) that AJ never made and we needed that type of QB play this year. Blake also proved to be just as clutch. When AJ had a bad game, he rarely turned it around. Blake seems to possess the ability to get of a funk quicker. Maybe that credit goes to Kiffin, so its tough to judge on that criteria.

That all being said, Blake Sims is a better QB at this moment in his career.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:34 am to
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Holy hypothetical Batman.


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We certainly wouldn't have lost to Ole Miss


Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:48 am to
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Blake seems to possess the ability to get of a funk quicker.


Well Blake put himself in those funks with picks and fumbles. Blake did a lot of head scratching things this year. AJ didn't seem to make those mistakes.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:52 am to
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AJ didn't seem to make those mistakes.


Except for his last game he ever played at Alabama.

And 2011 LSU, 2012 TAMU just off the top of my head
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:03 pm to
No, but he may be a better leader.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Is Sims a better QB than McCarron?



Nope. Better athlete, yes. Only thing he's really better at though.

Love em both. Both are great players.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Only thing he's really better at though.


Blake throws a better deep ball and is better at escaping a pass rush, IMO.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:38 pm to
AJ made a few awful decisions in his career but he made up for whatever wrong he did with national championships.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:49 pm to
Lol dude. You're blaming 11 lsu and 12 A&M on AJ? Get real.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:36 pm to
Hypotheticals are fine. Crazy stupid hypotheticals like some getting sacked three timed as much as any other time in his career are not.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
No way can I say right now that Sims is better than AJ. Statistically? Yes. But I need to see Sims performance in the playoffs before I can make a definitive statement like that. Are we so quick to forget that AJ was clutch in the two title games?

I'll revisit this post in a month with a more definitive answer.
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