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Figured this would get a laugh out of you Bama fans this morning
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:12 am
538 predictions are about the worst ever.
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Says Bama has a below 50% chance to make the playoff if they lose to Florida. Unless they lose by 50+, they are 100% in win or lose.
Just goes to show you all the algorithms in the world can't beat looking at a team and how they play
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Says Bama has a below 50% chance to make the playoff if they lose to Florida. Unless they lose by 50+, they are 100% in win or lose.
Just goes to show you all the algorithms in the world can't beat looking at a team and how they play
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:30 am to Buckeye06
We aren't losing to Florida. If someone is gonna beat us they'd better bring a offense with a great QB.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:44 am to Buckeye06
Don't see how the algorithm has OSU going to Playoffs even with PSU winning the Big Ten title game. There is zero chance OSU gets in if UW, Clemson, PSU and Alabama win their titles.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:45 am to Buckeye06
Oh well. His election predictions were shite too.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:18 pm to CrimsonFlounder
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Don't see how the algorithm has OSU going to Playoffs even with PSU winning the Big Ten title game. There is zero chance OSU gets in if UW, Clemson, PSU and Alabama win their titles.
I don't understand these arguments. There is no world where OSU and PSU have similar resumes EVEN IF PSU WINS THE B1G TITLE. OSU will be 4-1 and PSU will be 2-1 against top 25 competition (with PSU having no top 25 wins on the road and OSU having 2 top 10 on the road), AND PSU has 2 losses.
Here is my view on it. Committee chair says OSU/PSU/Wisky are not close last Tuesday. After last tuesday, OSU adds Michigan. PSU/Wisky winner will add that to their resume (not as good of a win). How could that change the committee's mind? Because the B1G conference title game is named that? OSU/Michigan is a better game than PSU/Wisky, and there's no debate of that
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:22 pm to Buckeye06
I can easily see OSU being left out of the playoff.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:23 pm to Buckeye06
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There is no world where OSU and PSU have similar resumes
Agreed. OSU deserves the playoff spot. Alabama fans really shouldn't be speaking out against a non-conference champion getting to play for the title.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:25 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
I don't know. I think the committee will look at Penn State's win against Ohio State AND them winning the extra game against Wisconsin as an excuse to leave Ohio State out of it.
Assuming Penn State beats Wisconsin of course.
Assuming Penn State beats Wisconsin of course.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:32 pm to TideSaint
In that world they are ignoring PSU's loss OOC and even with winning the conference having a worse resume.
I don't see how the committee can set that precedent. CFB games on the road against good teams are tough. Good home venues on average are 5.5 point advantages. May mean OSU beats PSU on a neutral field and losses to Michigan on a neural field.
I don't see how the committee can set that precedent. CFB games on the road against good teams are tough. Good home venues on average are 5.5 point advantages. May mean OSU beats PSU on a neutral field and losses to Michigan on a neural field.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:38 pm to Buckeye06
Either way they will be setting a precedent though.
I don't know if they want to lose the conference champion "requirement" argument this year when said champion would have beaten the team they picked above them.
This isn't 2011 when the polls had an influence in the formula.
I don't know if they want to lose the conference champion "requirement" argument this year when said champion would have beaten the team they picked above them.
This isn't 2011 when the polls had an influence in the formula.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:41 pm to TideSaint
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I don't know if they want to lose the conference champion "requirement" argument this year when said champion would have beaten the team they picked above them.
I mean if these teams were both 11-1 right now, with current resumes, I STILL think OSU would be ranked ahead of them. OSU's resume is really far superior.
I agree they are making precedent anyway. I actually think the committee is going to set up a natural barrier this week, leaving Michigan ahead of both PSU and Wisky (same record and they have head to head over both).
Edit: How could you not have Michigan ahead of both? They have 3 top 10 wins in both those teams and Colorado, and a close loss to OSU
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:43 pm to Buckeye06
I probably need to step away from TD for a while. I have probably said the same thing 50 times this morning in 20 different threads
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:44 pm to Buckeye06
You think Penn State could beat Alabama,Clemson,or Washington on a neutral field?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:46 pm to Dubosed
Nope, but I think OSU has a chance to beat Clemson and Washington for sure, and right now a 15% chance to beat Bama (OSU is the youngest team in the country and can use bowl prep potentially better than anyone)
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:51 pm to Buckeye06
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I mean if these teams were both 11-1 right now, with current resumes, I STILL think OSU would be ranked ahead of them. OSU's resume is really far superior.
You're right about the resumes, but head to head has to count for something. They use head to head to determine divisional champions when teams have the same conference record.
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I agree they are making precedent anyway. I actually think the committee is going to set up a natural barrier this week, leaving Michigan ahead of both PSU and Wisky (same record and they have head to head over both).
Michigan's loss to Iowa is worse than Wisconsin and Penn State's losses though.
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How could you not have Michigan ahead of both? They have 3 top 10 wins in both those teams and Colorado, and a close loss to OSU
Michigan has lost 2 out of 3 games. Penn State is on fire. Wisconsin hasn't lost in a while either.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:54 pm to TideSaint
Agree to all of those, but head to head have mattered when teams have equal records and so far ONLY in those scenarios really. Therefore, Michigan beat PSU and Wisky. The Playoff Committee is supposed to look at resumes and apparently not pay attention to "momentum" since they didn't drop anyone 2 weeks ago
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:57 pm to CrimsonFlounder
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Don't see how the algorithm has OSU going to Playoffs even with PSU winning the Big Ten title game. There is zero chance OSU gets in if UW, Clemson, PSU and Alabama win their titles.
I wouldn't leave OSU out this year on my ballot. Easily the most legit team in the top 4 besides Bama and a clear cut 2 regardless of Big 10 championship or not. Anyone else from the Big 10 doesn't stack up with a win over Halfbaugh and the rest of his twits.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:01 pm to TideSaint
This week's CFP poll won't mean shite. You could have Michigan ranked 4th, it won't matter next week. I expect OSU to still be 2nd this week, but if Bama, Clemson, Washington and Penn St win this weekend, that will be the four playoff teams and OSU will fall to 5th.
You can't put in OSU over a Big Ten Champ Penn St that beat OSU, especially with Penn St playing a extra game. If Wisconsin wins, that is different. No way a one loss conference champion Clemson and Washington get left out.
You can't put in OSU over a Big Ten Champ Penn St that beat OSU, especially with Penn St playing a extra game. If Wisconsin wins, that is different. No way a one loss conference champion Clemson and Washington get left out.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:01 pm to Buckeye06
If I were a Buckeye fan, I'd be the biggest Wisconsin supporter in the world next Saturday.
If Wisconsin beats Penn State, I think Ohio State is in.
It's gonna be very interesting if Penn State pulls it out.
If Wisconsin beats Penn State, I think Ohio State is in.
It's gonna be very interesting if Penn State pulls it out.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:04 pm to TideSaint
So you are saying that if Ole Miss had pulled out the Arky game last year Bama shouldn't have gotten in right?
I'm just verifying that
I'm just verifying that
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