re: Did we complete one pass over 10 yards in the air today?

I just don't understand why we keep having this same conversation. He is who he said right now. He's clearly incredibly raw throwing the football. I think he will probably improve on that next year, but there is a chance he doesn't (pretty small chance I think).

As for this year, he is what he is. It's going to be frustrating at times, but his legs are a weapon and open up an already excellent run game for even more space. There may be a team that can whip us in base and stop our run, but I dont see it. Teams will have to bring people up, and I do think Jalen (and Kiffins scheme) is good enough to hit our guys once they beat one on one enough to win games. But maybe not. We'll find out.

Bottom line is we are where we are and it probably won't change. Jalen is Lamar Jackson true freshman year throwing the ball. The same arguments back and forth every week are just kinda nauseating.

quote:

---

Yes, expecting a QB to throw a ball accurately is very unreasonable

---

Statistical data shows he is throwing the ball accurately.

Hurts is more poised than Coker was. The accuracy will come with timing and development.

Dont some of you people watch football?

quote:

---

Hurts is more poised than Coker was. The accuracy will come with timing and development.

Dont some of you people watch football?

---

Your post reminds me of.........

click me at your discretion, as the language may offend some

quote:

---

I guess the key is determining the posters who want genuine discussion and the ones who have a pattern of being a contrarian.

---

quote:

---

Some are just wanting to argue

---

Irony.

Some are simply amazed at how well a true freshman has performed, and are trying to explain to the detractors that he cant do it all from day one.

Others are amazed a true freshman isn't hitting his second, third, or fourth read, and connecting at 60% beyond 20 yards.

Which is more "extreme?"

Detractors coming around every sunday to say he needs to work on his passing ? No shite. We. All. Knew. That. From. Day. 1.

He also needs to learn the other HALF of the playbook I would imagine. He needs to improve at every facet of the game. CNS would tell you that; Hurts would tell you that, and every fan with a clue would tell you that.

But to show up here, and sound off like Hurts is not getting the job done is asinine. Folks in that camp are coming across like clueless ingrates that have never played a down of football.

quote:

---

Some are simply amazed at how well a true freshman has performed

---

I am.

quote:

---

trying to explain to the detractors that he cant do it all from day one.

---

I really dont need football explained to me.

quote:

---

Others are amazed a true freshman isn't hitting his second, third, or fourth read, and connecting at 60% beyond 20 yards.

---

Very few are. Saying that his current weakness is his downfield accuracy is not the same as being amazed he is not there yet. You using the word "amazed" is that statement is another attempt to move the fulcrum to the extreme however.

quote:

---

Detractors coming around every sunday to say he needs to work on his passing ? No shite. We. All. Knew. That. From. Day. 1.

---

So that statement is an agreement with most of what many have said.

quote:

---

But to show up here, and sound off like Hurts is not getting the job done is asinine. Folks in that camp are coming across like clueless ingrates that have never played a down of football.

---

Keep trying to move that fulcrum to the extreme.

quote:

---

Statistical data shows he is throwing the ball accurately.

---

No, statistical data shows that we are moving the ball fairly well on plays that are counted as passing plays by the NCAA. That doesn't necessarily say much about how accurate the QB is, and I'm saying he's pretty inaccurate. We have fantastic WR's that have made some great plays with bad passes, and we have passes traveling 0 yards through the air that end up being 20+ yard gains. Both are skewing the stats.

quote:

---

Funky Tide 8

---

quote:

---

Yes I do. But the difference is I dont think its a life threatening disease.

---

quote:

---

The "OMG he overthrew the deep ball, we're all gonna suffer 1 loss and die" shite is way over the top.

---

I know its a message board so this is to be expected. But its sad that even on the team board we resort to making intentional exaggerations to bolster our arguments. I have been guilty of this, at times, as have most posters. It easy to get trapped into by those who just want to argue.

I think it is OK some of us have concerns that a team will slow our run game down and being concerned that Hurts will need to have more accuracy than he has shown. While others believe it is not a concern.

I think to your credit, you were willing to say accuracy is a concern of yours as well. That is all most of us are trying to say.

quote:

---

Adam Griffith is a bigger concern for me than Hurts,

---

I agree, but I think having more than one concern is allowable.

quote:

---

Nick's lack of willingness to sign a legit kicker. I'd gladly give up one 4 star bench warmer for a money kicker.

---

We have signed top kickers before that have no worked out. It happens I guess.

Not certain how Saban handles the grunt work of evaluating kickers. Many times college coaches rely heavily on the opinions of the kicking "gurus" around the country. They get the gurus to send their best kickers, from their section of the country to the team camps. Coaches then do the meat of their evaluation at the camp. However, with Saban's attention to detail in all things Alabama football he may have a completely different approach.