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re: Alabama Hires Patriots' TE Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator

Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:49 pm to
Alabama hiring Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator | AL.com
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Alabama's new offensive coordinator is coming from the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots.

The Crimson Tide is hiring Patriots tight ends coach Brian Daboll as its offensive coordinator, sources confirmed to AL.com.

The hiring of Daboll was first reported by ESPN.

This will be the 41-year old Daboll's first college job since serving as a graduate assistant under Nick Saban at Michigan State in 1998 and 1999.

Daboll has been a part of all five Patriots Super Bowl teams.

During his first stint with New England, Daboll was a defensive coaching assistant from 2000 to 2001 and then the team's wide receivers coach from 2002 to 2006.

Daboll returned to the Patriots as a coaching assistant in 2013 and had been the tight ends coach since 2014, leading a group that included star Rob Gronkowski.

The Ontario native has also been a quarterbacks coach for the New York Jets (2007-08) and the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns (2009-10), Miami Dolphins (2011) and Kansas City Chiefs (2012).

Alabama is surely hoping Daboll will be more successful than he was during those first three offensive coordinator opportunities.

The Browns ranked last out of the NFL's 32 teams in total offense under Daboll in 2009 and then 29th in 2010. The Dolphins ranked 22nd in total offense under Daboll while the Chiefs were 24th.

It's worth noting, though, that Daboll never had anything close to an elite quarterback during those previous offensive coordinator opportunities.

The quarterbacks he worked with as an NFL offensive coordinator consist of Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Colt McCoy, a 35-year old Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, Chad Henne, J.P. Losman and Matt Cassel.

It will be different at Alabama as he inherits an offense led by quarterback and reigning SEC Offensive Player of the Year Jalen Hurts, running backs Bo Scarbrough and Damien Harris and wide receiver Calvin Ridley.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:53 pm to
A'ight TideSaint, looks like it's time to change "maybe?" to "confirmed" in the thread title.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:55 pm to
I'll be very interested to hear Saban discuss the hire. He usually gets into why he likes a guy and what he thinks the hire is bringing to the staff.

Would guess he'll discuss and philosophical changes/shifts.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Bamafan15
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:04 pm to
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an Alabama offense that returns seven starters from last season’s team that won 15 games
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Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:06 pm to
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this will only be a one year thing.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:15 pm to
Good catch.



Welcome aboard Coach Daboll!
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:47 am to
Confirmed: Saban Hires Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator | RollBamaRoll
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The coaching staff is in place, now it’s time to get to work.

After a week of speculation, we can now confirm that Alabama has hired New England tight ends coach Brian Daboll to run the offense:

Daboll returned to the Patriots as a coaching assistant in 2013 and had been the tight ends coach since 2014, leading a group that included star Rob Gronkowski.

The Ontario native has also been a quarterbacks coach for the New York Jets (2007-08) and the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns (2009-10), Miami Dolphins (2011) and Kansas City Chiefs (2012).

OK, let’s get this out of the way.

Every one of the offenses that Daboll coordinated were putrid. In fact, every head coach that Daboll worked for during that period was fired, and offensive ineptitude was a major driving factor in each case. There is reason for concern given his history as a play-caller. Likewise, since Daboll has worked almost exclusively in the NFL, he has no recruiting background. On the surface this move is something of a head scratcher.

Needless to say, Nick Saban has earned a certain amount of trust from the fanbase. He gave Daboll his first coaching job as a graduate assistant and, when Bill Belichick was building his initial staff in New England, Saban recommended Daboll to his mentor and friend. Daboll has been with Belichick in New England for 11 of his 17 seasons in the league. Saban knows exactly what he’s getting in Daboll, and in the end that was the key to the hire.

So, what will the offense look like?

The New England offense is built around the principles of the Erhardt-Perkins system, favoring simplified terminology and a scheme built around perfect execution of a few basic concepts, that can each be run out of multiple formations and personnel groups, rather than a thick playbook. Backs and receivers are virtually plug-and-play outside, and a strong ball control running game is the nucleus.

From Grantland: The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. In other systems, even if the underlying principles are the exact same, the play and its name might be very different. Rather than juggling all this information in real time, an Erhardt-Perkins quarterback only has to read a given arrangement of receivers. “You can cut down on the plays and get different looks from your formations and who’s in them. It’s easier for the players to learn. It’s easier for the quarterback to learn,” former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis said back in 2000. “You get different looks without changing his reads. You don’t need an open-ended number of plays.”

Considering the youth at the quarterback position, it makes perfect sense that Saban would want a more simplified scheme. The bulk of his infamous “arse-chewings” of Kiffin were typically following mistakes that were at least partially attributable to trying to play at a faster pace or cute play-calling. In terms of style, expect the 2017 offense to look much more like the 2012 unit than 2016.

This isn’t to say that the scheme will be vanilla and boring. There is plenty of room for trick plays, and the athleticism at the QB position should help to extend plays and push the ball down the field. Up front, New England is primarily a “power” blocking team that mixes in a few inside and outside zone runs as opposed to the virtually exclusive zone blocking seen in Tuscaloosa over the past few seasons.

Of course, zone blocking allows the use of the QB read option and is a better fit with the RPOs that are heavily used in college due to the relaxed ineligible receiver rules. With the dual threat at QB, one has to imagine that there will be a place for these concepts.

For better or worse, Saban has his man. Daboll and Co-OC Mike Locksley have about a month to get a scheme together for spring practice. Their respective backgrounds would suggest that Locksley is likely to coach the quarterbacks while Daboll handles the WRs, but that will obviously be Saban’s call. In any event, they will have the best offensive skill talent in the country at their disposal. Let’s hope they can find a way to maximize it.

Welcome to Tuscaloosa, Brian.

Roll Tide.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 2:29 pm to
I know that he spent a year in Miami, but I can't wait for him to experience an Alabama August
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
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expect the 2017 offense to look much more like the 2012 unit


Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:16 pm to
I'll take the 2012 version minus the Nussfarts
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:31 pm to
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"expect the 2017 offense to look much more like the 2012 unit"

I think the author made an assumption. And I think he may be at least somewhat off the mark -- by saying "much more like." I think "perhaps a little more like" would've been a wiser choice of words -- especially since he may even be totally off the mark. We'll see.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:38 pm to
I hope we don't go back to that. Too many people afraid of change... need to understand sometimes you have to adapt and embrace.

Be stubborn and you'll become outdated like Blockbuster.

I like the power running spread offense Oklahoma uses. They still run the ball, power block but open up the field using spacing and relying on the QB with a good passing game.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:03 pm to
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I hope we don't go back to that.

I don't expect it.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:08 pm to
One things for sure, this guy isn't going to forget that the TE position exists
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:37 pm to
I wouldn't mind seeing a return to the 2015 offense myself. We were a threat to run and pass it. Henry had over 2,000 yards on the ground and Coker had over 3,000 yards through the air.



This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:53 pm to
They gone.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:57 pm to
They are gone but we have the returning SEC Offensive Player of the Year at QB as well as a stable of running backs that were all four and five-star players coming out of high school.

Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 3:11 am to
quote:

I hope we don't go back to that. Too many people afraid of change... need to understand sometimes you have to adapt and embrace.

Be stubborn and you'll become outdated like Blockbuster.


We won national titles with that blockbuster offense.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:16 am to
Yeah in the past.

Teams won championships with the wishbone as well. Doesn't mean we should go back to that.
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