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OldPete
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re: A little worried about our DL
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Honestly, I think we could easily make it back even if this were to not happen...even though I most certainly think that it will.

I agree...what I should've said was that it will need to improve if we expect to win the CFP...but unless another team built like Clemson was last season, that may not be the case...


narddogg81
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re: A little worried about our DL
Yes, I've read about positive buzz surrounding quinnen Williams in several places, could provide nice depth


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Funky Tide 8
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re: A little worried about our DL
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I agree...what I should've said was that it will need to improve if we expect to win the CFP...but unless another team built like Clemson was last season, that may not be the case...





Agreed. Ohio State will pose a threat with a senior JT Barrett at the helm, but even he doesn't really scare me. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield could be dangerous.


OldPete
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re: A little worried about our DL
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Ohio State will pose a threat with a senior JT Barrett at the helm, but even he doesn't really scare me. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield could be dangerous.

Yeah, I think I'd be more afraid of Mayfield than Barrett as well. Barrett's solid, but he's never done all that well in big games...think we'd have had a better chance against Barrett a couple of years ago as opposed to Cardale Jones...there was a lot more film on Barrett...

Mayfield is such a gunslinger/wild card...he could be sugar or shinola from game to game...but I don't think OU has the defense that Clemson had so I think we could win a shootout against them...


Bamadoc
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re: A little worried about our DL
The guy who should scare all of us the most is Sam Darnold. He will win the Heisman and SC will be in the CFP.


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The guy who should scare all of us the most is Sam Darnold


I thought about him, but he is losing some really good WRs, among other teammates that were important starters.


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OldPete
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re: A little worried about our DL
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The guy who should scare all of us the most is Sam Darnold. He will win the Heisman and SC will be in the CFP.

Great QB, maybe elite...but he's not mobile and they don't run spread/HUNH...I like our chances against any pro-style offense...


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cajunbama
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re: A little worried about our DL
Did we help ourselves on the DL?


Commander Data
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re: A little worried about our DL
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Great QB, maybe elite...but he's not mobile


You are wrong about Darnold. It's their other guy that can't move. Darnold is extremely athletic with really good speed.


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CapstoneGrad06
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Did we help ourselves on the DL?




I think LaBryan Ray, Isaiah Buggs, and Phil Mathis will all make an impact early.


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TidalSurge1
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The next Jonathan Allen? Alabama redshirt freshman 'pleasant surprise' as scout-team monster
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The time for unhinged bluster about the next great football talent has arrived. Mid-February, here we are. The apex of one recruiting cycle sets the benchmark for what the next wave can and should do.

Last year's studs have lost some of that new car shine, at least outside Alabama's football complex. That's why Jonathan Allen's response to a question about the next great Crimson Tide defensive lineman raised an eyebrow.

Remember Quinnen Williams?

The four-star 2016 signee had a quiet rookie year redshirting behind NFL talent. The biggest news he made was winning a cannonball contest with fellow defensive lineman Raekwon Davis in January.

Coaches and teammates explained what was going on behind the curtain. By most accounts, the Wenonah High School graduate was being groomed as Allen's successor as Alabama restocks arguably its best front seven in program history.  

"Quinnen Williams. That's the guy you need to know," said Allen, the national defensive player of the year projected among the top 2017 draft picks. "He's going to be a baller. He's going to be a beast."

Allen threw out four quick reasons to watch Williams. Tenacity. Toughness. Gritty. And he's mean.

Williams didn't come to Alabama as the bell cow of the nation's No. 1 recruiting class. He had the 12th highest rating of the Tide signees last February. Among defensive tackles, the Birmingham product was 16th.

That said, there wasn't an intense spotlight on Williams for his first year in Tuscaloosa.

Alabama defensive line coach Karl Dunbar described his young tackle as quiet.

"I think he's real smart and he does a great job in terms of paying attention and learning what we have to do," Dunbar said. "And he practices hard as heck. He goes out there and has a really good drive. And that's why I see him getting better. We are doing pass rush drills against the first- and second-team offense and you see this kid working.

"He's been a pleasant surprise."

Of the 13 game weeks leading up to the Peach Bowl, Dunbar estimated Williams was a scout team player of the week 10 times. Success in that realm is traditionally a pipeline for production outside of rehearsals moving forward.

He's also added some mass.

Arriving at 265 pounds, Williams said he was up to 297 in late December. As a recruit, Williams heard he played like Da'Shawn Hand.

"But as I got bigger, I started to get compared to Jonathan Allen," Williams said. "It really fit me because the way Jonathan Allen plays, I play the same way."

So, to hear Allen didn't hesitate identifying him as the next defensive line great meant a lot to the redshirt freshman.

"Jonathan Allen just basically took me up under his wing and taught me everything he knows," Williams said, "so I can be just like him or even better than him."

That's no small statement.

Allen graduated as perhaps the most decorated defender in a program traditionally built on defense. He won four national awards while being named unanimous All-American as a senior. Unlike Williams, Allen played all 13 games as a true freshman on a defensive line not quite as stacked as the 2016 edition.

Redshirting wasn't necessarily the original plan, but Williams said he wasn't bothered by it.

Being the understudy for Allen meant considerable time lining up across from another likely first-round pick in practice.

"Being on scout team, going against Cam Robinson every play, he really helped me also," Williams said. "So, I want to thank Cam Robinson for coming off on me hard and really giving me extra work because he's going to be the No. 1 tackle coming out. So, if I'm getting extra work on the No. 1 tackle, that means I could be potentially basically beating every tackle there is."

Williams reported "sometimes" beating Robinson, the top-ranked left tackle in the upcoming draft.

Recently graduated outside linebacker Ryan Anderson called Williams "a monster" whose style resembles Allen.

"Oh, he's a tough player," Anderson said. "I feel like he's technically sound. I feel like he's going to step up and be a big player next year. I see flashes a lot. When I see him on the practice field, he flashes a lot."

And that's about to pick up again.

Spring practice is about a month away as Alabama fills the void left by Allen and fellow starter Dalvin Tomlinson. With depth a concern, the Tide also added top junior college defensive end Isaiah Buggs. The 6-foot-5, 290 pounder from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College, which also produced Terrence Cody, is enrolled for spring practice.

Williams knows the plan when the pads go on in March.

"Really just perform. Just get out there, don't be nervous," he said. "Don't be second guessing myself. Just do what Jonathan Allen did. Jonathan Allen gets out there and just goes full throttle every play, full speed every play. I just feel like I can do the same thing."

And that's no small responsibility when you consider what Allen did in his four Alabama seasons.

It also takes Williams out of the shadows and straight into the limelight in the next incarnation of Alabama's defensive line.

He's cool with that.

"It's not really pressure with me. It's confidence," Williams said. "Jonathan Allen, I don't really look at him like the best defensive lineman in the world. I just look at him like another football player that's grinding every day and working every day and he never lets up. I want to be the same way.

If I take the way Jonathan Allen is going and the positive things he's doing, I look at myself one day being in the same shoes he's in now."


coachcrisp
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re: A little worried about our DL
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I agree...what I should've said was that it will need to improve if we expect to win the CFP...but unless another team built like Clemson was last season, that may not be the case...
We could see that team in the 1st game next year.


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My2Bits
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re: A little worried about our DL
Dont forget Terrel Hall,a former five star and every bit good as advertised. He could be DE or a Jack but he will have an impact.


Commander Data
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re: A little worried about our DL
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Dont forget Terrel Hall


I expected him to grow into a DE and he still may do that. It does look like he will start at jack with Miller playing OLB. Evans and Hamilton on the inside or maybe Wilson if Hamilton isn't a go. Would like to see Evans as a pass rusher on third down.


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