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re: (2012, 20_ _ Nat'l Champs) Alabama 2017 Softball Discussion

Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:17 pm to
No, we just have to recruit girls that can swing a damn bat. I don't care if they are from Siberia if they can hit. We've always had pitchers. You mean to tell me we can't find some girls that can knock the cover off the ball? If you can't score, I don't care how good our pitchers are, you can't win. Murphy apparently emphasizes defense to the detriment of everything else. It's important, but if she can drive in runs, you can overcome and overlook an occasional error in the field.

The off-season will be telling. Will Murph sit on his arse and maintain the status quo or does he change hitting coaches and/or go after some bigger bats? If he doesn't, I think the heat should start to rise on his seat.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:24 pm to
The problem with Murph, is that he knows that he is basically untouchable. The alumni would have a fit if he got fired. I think they see him as one of the girls.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:29 pm to
She's probably not ready yet since she's a first year assistant with Dartmouth but I'd love to see us bring back someone like Jackie Traina. The alumna couldn't really say a helluva lot then could they?

The key to running Murph if we need to run him, is to make the hire such a splash that nobody could say shite about it.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16504 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 7:36 pm to
who is a splash hire that is not already at a high profile place. We have a former alum as our pitching coach now. Why do we need Triana
Posted by dudeabides
Pensacola, FL
Member since Sep 2012
3806 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:13 pm to
Good luck next year, best team we had playing on a diamond all season.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:18 pm to
This off season will be telling for Murphy. He'll either get out on the road and start putting in the time and hard work of recruiting elite athletes, or he'll continue to look for his pitcher to cover his arse. Bottom line, if he doesn't have a recruiting "epiphany" now, Alabama will be a middle to lower echelon SEC team within two years.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16504 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 9:22 am to
if we don't get hitting for next year we will be middle of the pack. We have one pitcher going into next year and she has proven she goes deep in every game. She wont last pitching every inning of all major games. We have the lefty who I assume cant pitch in those other games but she is not the caliber of the senior we are losing.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 4:35 pm to
I wasn't talking about bringing back Traina as a pitching coach. We have a fine pitching coach now. That's why I prefaced it with she's not ready yet. She's ready to be a pitching coach anywhere, but probably not ready to be a head coach.

Certain schools seem to get to the regionals every year that I think we could poach: Tulsa, FIU, even UCLA could be potential candidates to replace Murphy.

I hope Murphy is told in a polite way that the rest of the league has caught up with him and is in the process of passing him if he doesn't do something. It's no longer a UA/UF league. Florida keeps evolving. What are we doing? Time to shake it up, Murph.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:03 pm to
Is this a legitimate conversation? Replacing Murphy?
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4795 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:47 pm to
With Murphy We have become the Atlanta Braves of Womens Softball. Have talent to stay in the conversation of top teams every year but can never win titles. One title in 19 years when we have made 11 W.World Series and 18'tournaments. Not a great success ratio for the ultimate prize. Humongous success and humongous frustration. Frankly I would prefer less attempts with more titles.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 7:24 pm to
I used to call him the Tom Osborne of softball.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 7:56 pm to
Yes, it's a serious conversation IF Murphy doesn't look around and realize that he can't do the same old thing every year and dominate the SEC. Since our lone Natty, we've slipped a little every year. I believe we finished 5th this season. 5th!! In a league where the question used to be was Florida or Bama going to win it because we were always 1-2. The question has become who will challenge Florida. Because we're one of many that will challenge. Nobody is ready to run Murphy yet but it's time to politely tell him that we need to see some improvements and changes being made or changes will have to be made.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 7:57 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 4:05 pm to
As I've said before, Murphy will either go his arse to work NOW, or we'll continue to go south until folks get fed up with him. There's a huge difference between being able to do something, and doing it...we'll see which way he jumps quickly.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:38 am to
Tommy Deas had a Q&A with Murphy.
TideSports
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:43 am to
This exchange doesn't give me hope that Murphy will correct anything:
quote:

When you look at the offensive problems, what do you think that stemmed from and what are your thoughts on how to correct it?

quote:

A: I just think that No. 1, good hitting is contagious; and No. 2, bad hitting is also contagious, and unfortunately it kind of spread. I even told them one time, ‘You know, this isn’t like the flu. You don’t get it from somebody else. I can understand one or two of you going through some tough times, but not nine people in the lineup.’ For whatever reason, it just continued. We were winning 1-0, 1-0 and we had really good team defense down the stretch and the pitching was there, and we finally got a couple key hits that won some games for us. I looked at some of the numbers, compared last year to this year, and there were people that are 100 points off (their batting average) and kids that had 12 less home runs than they did last year. It was just this one poor year. But we’re definitely going to do offensive things in the fall and we’re obviously going to address it a lot as a coaching staff when everybody gets back, and just hopefully get out of it. I know that there are so many people that are better hitters than what they showed. Instead of having a career-low year, we needed somebody to have a career-high year, and we didn’t have many of those.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:01 am to
Wish we could get a new hitting coach.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:56 am to
One or two players have a slump. A whole team having a career low batting average is a systemic problem that probably begins and ends with coaching.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Is this a legitimate conversation? Replacing Murphy?



Not quite yet, but this off season and next year will tell alot whether he's losing his touch or is an all time great. Tons of successful coaches and managers have had odd slumps in their careers, it's inevitable if you coach for decades. What makes them great is they know A) when it's time to step down or B) how to evolve and stay with the game.

SIDENOTE
To be honest it's amazing that in 10 years at Alabama, Nick Saban has never dipped below 10 wins other than his debut season. Most of college football has been waiting for a slump, but it's never come yet, one of the reason's Nick is so amazing, even Bryant had a few 6 loss seasons.


This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4795 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:29 pm to
Good news is Murphy has said the focus for next years team would be Offense.He will be looking to seriously upgrade it.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:57 pm to
Upgrading it means getting off his arse and getting in the road to RECRUIT hitters. If that's not what he's prepared to do, things ain't gonna end well for him at Alabama.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 1:58 pm
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