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SDS Ranks the 5 best UGA teams of all time
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:11 am
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5. 2012
4. 2002
3. 1982
2. 1942
1. 1980
Thoughts? Most lists like this are pretty crappy but this one seems to be fairly reasonable. A few quick thoughts:
-It's almost impossible to really nail down 1942 into a spot. Obviously that team was awesome and had Sinkwich, but nobody here other than dallas even saw them play. I realize they were playing against other similar teams on an even playing field...but it was just such a different era of football.
-1980...hmmmm. It seems they get #1 by default, but were they really our BEST team ever? I'm not sure. Buck really was average as hell, we had the best RB and a great defense. 1982 was a very similar team, we had HW (who was better than the 1980 version) and would have been the undefeated national champ if not for a late long bomb in the title game.
-At the time I wouldn't have thought so, but after a couple years removed I think 2012 probably belongs. They had one unbelievably bad game, but were incredibly solid the rest of the year.
-I'm ok with 02 being #4
5. 2012
4. 2002
3. 1982
2. 1942
1. 1980
Thoughts? Most lists like this are pretty crappy but this one seems to be fairly reasonable. A few quick thoughts:
-It's almost impossible to really nail down 1942 into a spot. Obviously that team was awesome and had Sinkwich, but nobody here other than dallas even saw them play. I realize they were playing against other similar teams on an even playing field...but it was just such a different era of football.
-1980...hmmmm. It seems they get #1 by default, but were they really our BEST team ever? I'm not sure. Buck really was average as hell, we had the best RB and a great defense. 1982 was a very similar team, we had HW (who was better than the 1980 version) and would have been the undefeated national champ if not for a late long bomb in the title game.
-At the time I wouldn't have thought so, but after a couple years removed I think 2012 probably belongs. They had one unbelievably bad game, but were incredibly solid the rest of the year.
-I'm ok with 02 being #4
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:20 am to WG_Dawg
Mi still believe 02 was out best top to bottom.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:24 am to tylerdurden24
2002 is one of those teams where one day I'll think they could potentially be our best team ever, and the next think they'd be aroudn 4th or 5th.
That team had everythign you want in a football team, top to bottom. Senior OL, steady QB play, great RB production, great WRs, nasty defense, great ST.
Greene was clutch as nails that year, but he really didn't WOW you much. He posted his 2nd worst passer rating of his career that season and completed less than 58% of his passes. BUT, he was certainly good enough that season to do what we needed.
I would be curious to see a 02 vs 12 matchup. As nasty as that 02 defense was, I think the 12 offense could give them fits. Our 12 offense was likely better than any the 02 defense saw all year. But with grantham at the helm, the 02 offense would probably be successful as well. Would have been a great game.
That team had everythign you want in a football team, top to bottom. Senior OL, steady QB play, great RB production, great WRs, nasty defense, great ST.
Greene was clutch as nails that year, but he really didn't WOW you much. He posted his 2nd worst passer rating of his career that season and completed less than 58% of his passes. BUT, he was certainly good enough that season to do what we needed.
I would be curious to see a 02 vs 12 matchup. As nasty as that 02 defense was, I think the 12 offense could give them fits. Our 12 offense was likely better than any the 02 defense saw all year. But with grantham at the helm, the 02 offense would probably be successful as well. Would have been a great game.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:43 am to WG_Dawg
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2002 is one of those teams where one day I'll think they could potentially be our best team ever, and the next think they'd be aroudn 4th or 5th.
Yep, losing to Florida was a ball buster but we probably would have been ranked below Miami and Ohio St. anyway so we would have been even more pissed off. At least we won the SECC convincingly and beat FSU in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:47 am to WG_Dawg
No 2007? I think I might put them in over 2012.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:48 am to davesdawgs
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Yep, losing to Florida was a ball buster
True, but unlike other years (SC '12 being a prime example) it's not like got completely outmatched. Pretty much anything that could go wrong in that game did.
-Freshman backup QB throwing a pick 6
-Multiple missed FGs by one of the best we've ever had
-George Foster drawing a 15 yard penalty to knock us out of FG range
-Having a TD called back due to refs calling Pollack's lateral to S.Jones forward (which was bullshite)
-That "other" play which will remain undescribed
Despite ALLLLL that, we had a chance with the ball at the end to tie it.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:07 am to h0bnail
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No 2007? I think I might put them in over 2012.
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:50 am to WG_Dawg
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Buck really was average as hell,
Huh?1st team All-SEC,2nd in the league in passing and TD passes.
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we had HW (who was better than the 1980 version)
Not sure I'd a agree with that.HW had a better ypc in '80...obviously by the time '82 rolled around defenses were playing the dawgs and HW a bit differently but I never thought he was quite the same after he hurt his shoulder vs ND.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:53 am to RunLindsayRun
I give 02 the nod over 12 simply because of depth. 02 was a complete team. 12 was close but, against Bama in particular, we just lacked the depth necessary to put us over the top. If we're talking just starting 22 guys, then I probably take the 12 team, but 02 had more guys to spare.
As for 07, they were playing on a whole other level from any other UGA team I can think of at the end of the season. However, that doesn't excuse what was in all honesty a pretty mediocre first half. Talent-wise, they stack up. But it pains me to think of what could have been had the coaching staff been a bit more in tune back then as it is now.
As for 07, they were playing on a whole other level from any other UGA team I can think of at the end of the season. However, that doesn't excuse what was in all honesty a pretty mediocre first half. Talent-wise, they stack up. But it pains me to think of what could have been had the coaching staff been a bit more in tune back then as it is now.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:54 am to h0bnail
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No 2007? I think I might put them in over 2012.
2007 can certainly make a case to be top 5, but no way in hell would they bump off 2012.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:57 am to RD Dawg
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Huh?
he threw for 1300 yards with 11 TD and 9 Int. In teh biggest game UGA had played in 4 decades and Herschel nursing a separated shoulder, he went 1 for 12 for 7 yards. No that's not a misprint.
Buck had some big plays in his career, but he gets an unbelievable amount of credit simply because he was on a title winning team. Sub out Buck for Hutson Mason and that team still wins a title.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:01 pm to tylerdurden24
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that doesn't excuse what was in all honesty a pretty mediocre first half
exactly. The UF game on through the end was exhilarating and it was as exciting a stretch as I can remember being a part of. But early?
-Beat OSU which looked great, but they went 7-6.
-Lost to a 6-6 SC team
-Beat a 7-6 bama team in overtime
-Got absolutely beat down by a 4 loss UT team that could have named the score
-Hung on by 3 against a 5-7 vandy team
And even the wins...UF and AU both lost 4 games. UK lost 5. GT lost 6.
That season was absolutely fun as hell, and POTENTIALLY could have been an all timer...but I'm not sure who they deserve to be over on the list.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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he threw for 1300 yards with 11 TD and 9 Int
You cannot compare him to today's offenses or QB's...He also led the COUNTRY in passing efficiency in '81.
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shoulder, he went 1 for 12 for 7 yards. No that's not a misprint
Typical,judging 'em off his whole career off one game and it's probably the only game you ever watched play or maybe the '80 Florida game...correct?
How many games where you at in '80 or '81?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:23 pm to RD Dawg
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Typical,judging 'em off his whole career off one game
We're talking about seasons genius, I would certainly hope you wouldn't be taking his whole career into account. We're talking about 1980 only. And I'm not comparing him to today, I woudln't expect him to throw for 3,000 yards, especially with Herschel. But 11/9 is pedestrian any way you slice it. And again, in the biggest game of his life he was absolute dog shite.
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it's probably the only game you ever watched play or maybe the '80 Florida game...correct?
Incorrect, I'm pretty familiar with his resume.
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How many games where you at in '80 or '81?
I wasn't born yet, so zero. Didn't realize you had to be in your mid 30s to have this discussion..and how is that relevant anyway? How many games have you been to the last 10 years? Wait, it doesn't matter...because it doesn't have anything to do with the conversation.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:40 pm to WG_Dawg
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Didn't realize you had to be in your mid 30s to have this discussion..
Wouldn't matter if you were, you'd still be too young. I don't remeember anyting from when I was five with enough detail to have an intelligent conversation about it. To be fair...I'm not that intelligent anyway so hell maybe you could.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:43 pm to SneakyWaff1es
So to talk about the 1980 season you have to be at least in your early/mid 40s, got it 
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:46 pm to WG_Dawg
Good now don't forget it!
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:37 pm to WG_Dawg
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We're talking about 1980 only.
OK,so you're judging his entire SEASON off one game...makes complete sense now.
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Incorrect, I'm pretty familiar with his resume.
What exactly does this mean?You have game film from the 80 and 81 season?
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How many games have you been to the last 10 years?
Quite a few but its a different world these days because just about every game's on TV and it wasn't the case back then.
You said he was "average as hell" and he clearly was not... judging by his numbers and the coaches and journalist who voted him 1st team all SEC but you clearly know better because you're "familiar with his resume"...makes perfect sense.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:52 pm to tylerdurden24
1992 was a very good team too, even Goff had a hard time losing with them. 5 points away from 13-0. Lost to UT 34-31 & the WLOCP 26-24...
The UT game Vols took a 34-31 lead with :50 sec. left. UGA only got the KO out to the 10. Zeier threw for 18 to the 28 then found Andre Hastings for a 45yd run but Hastings fumbled on the play at the UT 33 to end it with :17 left...
The UF game we came back from being down 23-7 at the half but couldn't get it done...
The UT game Vols took a 34-31 lead with :50 sec. left. UGA only got the KO out to the 10. Zeier threw for 18 to the 28 then found Andre Hastings for a 45yd run but Hastings fumbled on the play at the UT 33 to end it with :17 left...
The UF game we came back from being down 23-7 at the half but couldn't get it done...
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:56 pm to RD Dawg
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OK,so you're judging his entire SEASON off one game...makes complete sense now
No, I'm judging his 1980 season on that he was basically only a vehicle to deliver the ball to Herschel. He threw completed less than 50% of his passes. 11 td/9 int. Those are bad statistics, period. The most noteworthy play he made that year was a 15 yard throw into the middle. Again, just about any good QB we've had since him could have led that 80 team to a title.
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What exactly does this mean?You have game film from the 80 and 81 season?
On file in my living room? No. But I have seen plenty of film of games he's played in.
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Quite a few but its a different world these days because just about every game's on TV and it wasn't the case back then
What's your point? You act like because I didn't attend Bucks games that I can't speak on the subject.
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You said he was "average as hell" and he clearly was not... judging by his numbers and the coaches and journalist who voted him 1st team all SEC
Well, why don't we dive into some stats then? In the SEC in 1980, he was:
-4th in completions
-4th in attempts
-3rd in percentage (again, at less than 50%)
-2nd in yards (by 500 yards)
-2nd in touchdowns
-tied for 5th worst in intercpetions
All of those on the face of it aren't that great. But you know what's even more noteworthy to me as I look at the stats? SEC QBs that year were dreadful as an entire group! Let's look at the league leaders:
percentage- 55%
yards- 1897
TDs- 13
fewest INT- 6
So, what can we take away from all this? That buck was essentially the tallest midget and he played on the best team in America. Is it any surprise he won all SEC? He wasn't very good, but he was less shitty than just about everyone else. If you've got a close race between a few folks, seems like the prevailing logic would be to give it to the guy whose on the undefeated #1 team.
How about how he stacks up nationally?
comp %- 68
yards- 54
TD- 36
INT- 28th (however, keep in mind his ranking for attempts checks in at 96)
I guess you fondly recall heading out to UGA games at 1:00 every Saturday and watching buck back in the day, so you have a soft spot for him. But the reality is he was a very plain, very average QB. I don't dislike the guy, I don't know him. I think he was a hell of a baseball player. But he simply overrated as a QB based on one play and the teams that he played on.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 2:03 pm
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