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In the election of 1864, Louisiana went to Lincoln
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:07 pm
Along with Tennessee.
SMH at these "Southern" states.
SMH at these "Southern" states.
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:09 pm to Stonehog
I would not have thought that there were U.S. ballots in the CSA. Did the federal government provide them in the areas they occupied?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:11 pm to derSturm37
The Union took New Orleans almost immediately.
Tennessee was under Union control by 1863.
Tennessee was under Union control by 1863.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:15 pm to Stonehog
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The Union took New Orleans almost immediately.
Tennessee was under Union control by 1863.
Right. So the majority of Louisianians and Tennesseeans who would have chosen to vote then would have been pro-USA. (Yes I see that this is self-evident given the information you provided. I'm just sayin').
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:27 pm to derSturm37
Other slave states voted for McClellan. 
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:30 pm to Stonehog
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Other slave states voted for McClellan.
Well now you've told us something! Huh.
This is noteworthy education. Good stuff.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:38 pm to derSturm37
Well your premise was completely wrong. You assumed that since Louisiana and Tennessee were under Union control that of course they elected Lincoln.
Kentucky and Delaware were slave states under Union control and they both went to McClellan, who wanted to end the war and preserve slavery.
Kentucky and Delaware were slave states under Union control and they both went to McClellan, who wanted to end the war and preserve slavery.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:52 pm to Stonehog
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Well your premise was completely wrong. You assumed that since Louisiana and Tennessee were under Union control that of course they elected Lincoln.
Kentucky and Delaware were slave states under Union control and they both went to McClellan, who wanted to end the war and preserve slavery.
I wouldn't call it a premise. I'd humbly admit it a conclusion. My conclusion was wrong.
I thanked you for the education. What do you want me to do? Kill myself?
Yes, I did assume that any southerner who went to those polls would have feared voting for anyone but Lincoln. What with habeas corpus suspended (and other non-constitutional necessities of war) I presumed that "secret ballot" was at the time suspect. In the south.
What I did was try to place myself in that position. I pictured myself walking the streets of occupied Louisiana to vote for the President of the United States in 1864 thinking, "If I vote against Lincoln they'll know it and know who I am." In this context I concluded that one in such a position would either vote for Lincoln or not vote at all.
My conclusion was wrong.
What you have taught me today is that even in the midst of Civil War the federal government was [apparently] maintaining faith to constitutional elections. This is a neat fact. It's neat to know.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:00 pm to derSturm37
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I thanked you for the education.
Guess I misinterpreted your tone. Seemed sarcastic.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:01 pm to Stonehog
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Guess I misinterpreted your tone. Seemed sarcastic.
Old habits are hard to break. People tell me I sound sarcastic all the time. I'm only meaning to like 85% of the time.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:47 pm to Stonehog
And LSU's first president burned Atlanta to the ground. Suck it, bitches.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:19 pm to Stonehog
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Tennessee was under Union control by 1863.
A substantial portion of that state's population was pro-Union and provided soldiers for the U.S. Army. I believe Louisiana was largely out of the war by the end of 1862. And it only took 10 percent of a state's population swearing allegiance to the U.S. to readmit that state to the nation--I believe that's how it worked.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:27 pm to wadewilson
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And LSU's first president burned Atlanta to the ground. Suck it, bitches.
Is that why yall have been back so rarely since then?
Yeah yeah... y u aggys have no titls? But it was an easy layup.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:38 pm to 3nOut
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Is that why yall have been back so rarely since then?
Out of 21 SEC Championship games in Atlanta, LSU has played in 5 of them. Florida has played in 8, Alabama in 7, LSU in 5, Auburn in 5, Georgia in 5, Tennessee in 5, then teams that don't matter.
FYI, Arkansas joined the SEC in 92 and were in the championship game by '95. Think aggy can match that success?
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:26 pm to derSturm37
Pretty much only the blacks were allowed to vote. The white men were all dead or still fighting.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:32 pm to Stonehog
Louisiana & Tennessee confirmed not racist
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:49 pm to Stonehog
East Tennessee is more Appalachian instead of southern. frick the rest of the state sans Nashville.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:06 pm to Stonehog
I know for damn sure SC would never have voted for Lincoln under any circumstance. Hell, SC was basically the instigator of the whole thing...first to leave and first to fire shots at the yankees.
Glad it is no longer a state with that mentality.
Glad it is no longer a state with that mentality.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:15 pm to kingbob
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Pretty much only the blacks were allowed to vote.
WHAT?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:22 pm to wadewilson
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And LSU's first president burned Atlanta to the ground. Suck it, bitches.
Technically not true, Sherman was LSU's first superintendent. The first president was David F. Boyd.
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