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re: Last football national championship for each SEC team
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:17 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:17 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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1941
2011
That's hardly a complete list. Again, how do you know only one picked them. Unless you have a source that lists every single selector ever made, you wouldn't know.
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:26 am to ctiger69
Cool info. Assuming that you're trying to make a point; anything past the last 2 or 3 years doesn't really count for much in the present or the future.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:31 am to boxedlunch
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That's hardly a complete list. Again, how do you know only one picked them. Unless you have a source that lists every single selector ever made, you wouldn't know.
At least I presented a case.
You've provided nothing.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:38 am to LSU Patrick
Posted on 1/31/15 at 12:34 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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At least I presented a case.
You've provided nothing.
Your "case" would impress nobody with moderate knowledge on the subject. Saying a team won a title because message board geeks presented it to them isn't going to impress people unless they don't know better.
This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/31/15 at 1:59 pm to ctiger69
Please do with basketball kind sir
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:15 pm to olddawg26
the auburn board says high 
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:27 pm to ctiger69
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SEC Big 6:
Alabama= (2012) 3 years ago
Auburn= (2010) 5 years ago
Florida= (2008) 7 years ago
LSU= (2007) 8 years ago
Tenn= (1998) 17 years ago
UGA= (1980) 35 years ago
Man, Vols and Dawgs need to get it together.
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The rest of the SEC:
Arkansas= (1964) 51 years ago
Ole Miss= (1962) 53 years ago.....last SEC championship was 52 years ago.
Kentucky= (1950) 65 years ago...beat down #1 OU in bowl, did not know they claimed this.
Texas A&M= (1939) 76 years ago....but they have a lot of money, big stadium, and a ton of fans.
Missouri= Never
Miss State= Never
Vanderbilt= Never
South Carolina= Never
I think Mizzou claims one from an ineligible KU player back in the 50's or 60's. Hogs and TAMU got theirs in the old SWC. Rebs got robbed back in the day and Cocks spend much of their history in the shadow of Clempson. Taters probably sorry they passed on the SEC in the 90's now.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:39 pm to Cheese Grits
Only AP, UPI, BCS, and CFPO should count as football national champions.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:43 pm to NorthGwinnett LSU
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Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.
AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year
Yep. Neither school has ever won an NC in football.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:48 pm to Cheese Grits
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I think Mizzou claims one from an ineligible KU player back in the 50's or 60's. Hogs and TAMU got theirs in the old SWC. Rebs got robbed back in the day and Cocks spend much of their history in the shadow of Clempson. Taters probably sorry they passed on the SEC in the 90's now.
Missouri doesn't claim 1960.
South Carolina's best chance was in 1984 when they were #2 and lost to Navy.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yep. Neither school has ever won an NC in football.
Both the NCAA and SEC disagree.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:51 pm to GeorgeWest
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Only AP, UPI, BCS, and CFPO should count as football national champions.
The problem with the AP and UPI is they were both biased for quite some time and they took decades to stop ranking at season's end and actually ranking post bowl season.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:23 pm to Cheese Grits
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The problem with the AP and UPI is they were both biased for quite some time and they took decades to stop ranking at season's end and actually ranking post bowl season.
While, I'm not saying they were, do you have any proof they were? How, in particular, was the UPI poll biased?
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:25 pm to GeorgeWest
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Only AP, UPI, BCS, and CFPO should count as football national champions.
No FWAA and NFF?
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:30 pm to Korin
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No FWAA and NFF?
Need you ask? Since they never valued FWAA or NFF, they perceive is must therefore follow that nobody ever valued it. What do you expect from a crowd that thinks a James Howell "title" has value?
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:42 pm to boxedlunch
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While, I'm not saying they were, do you have any proof they were? How, in particular, was the UPI poll biased?
The most recent example was the "split" national championship during the old Bowl Coalition in '97 that helped spur the BCS era. Michigan, the AP's choice, was clearly better than Nebraska. The coaches only gave NU the crown because it was Osborne's last year as coach. Stupid reason, but coaches side with their own like that (call it a going-away present). A few years before, in 1990, they gave Georgia Tech the crown because GT "deserved it" because they had a better record than Colorado (the AP's choice). EVERYONE knows that Colorado would have crushed Tech that year but, hey, the coaches have to reward one of their own because he "deserves it," not because they're really the best team. Great. I could go on...
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:54 pm to TheDude321
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The most recent example was the "split" national championship during the old Bowl Coalition in '97 that helped spur the BCS era. Michigan, the AP's choice, was clearly better than Nebraska. The coaches only gave NU the crown because it was Osborne's last year as coach. Stupid reason, but coaches side with their own like that (call it a going-away present). A few years before, in 1990, they gave Georgia Tech the crown because GT "deserved it" because they had a better record than Colorado (the AP's choice). EVERYONE knows that Colorado would have crushed Tech that year but, hey, the coaches have to reward one of their own because he "deserves it," not because they're really the best team. Great. I could go on...
Well, I'm not going to disagree that these were odd choices, and if you're saying the poll is biased toward retiring coaches, I suppose you have a point, however, I still see no bias, but I go the feeling that it wasn't the kind of bias he was talking about, and since he said bias has been worked out of the poll, I assume he meant that polls in the early days were biased, but no longer are.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 11:00 pm to TheDude321
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The most recent example was the "split" national championship during the old Bowl Coalition in '97 that helped spur the BCS era. Michigan, the AP's choice, was clearly better than Nebraska. The coaches only gave NU the crown because it was Osborne's last year as coach. Stupid reason, but coaches side with their own like that (call it a going-away present). A few years before, in 1990, they gave Georgia Tech the crown because GT "deserved it" because they had a better record than Colorado (the AP's choice). EVERYONE knows that Colorado would have crushed Tech that year but, hey, the coaches have to reward one of their own because he "deserves it," not because they're really the best team. Great. I could go on...
They got it right in 90. You're forgetting about Colorado's infamous fifth down against Missouri.
And no, Michigan was not "clearly better" than Nebraska.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:01 am to Korin
The bottom line as I see it is this:
Over the 150-ish year-old history of college football there has NEVER been an adequate system for ascertaining a national champion. Even 2014, with its "playoff", was severely flawed. 128 teams and 4 make this playoff?
(Case in Point: So long as college football fans still talk and/or type there will be conflict and drama re 2014's TCU).
In lieu of an adequate system for crowning a college football national champion writers and other pundits of numerous institutions, fraternities, cliques, and saloons have... Voted.
BOTTOM LINE (Because I promised): Any respectable (and respect-worthy) university (or similar institution) should, when deciding which national championship(s) to claim, consider one (and only one) criterium: Do we (the institution in question), in good faith, and with just prudence, WHOLEHEARTEDLY believe that our team of AD 1XYZ was PROBABLY the best team in the nation?
If you know good and well that said team probably was NOT the best team in the nation and yet you claim the national championship anyway (AP, UPI, Zeke's Shopping News, whatever NOTWITHSTANDING), then there is something to be held against your honor.
i.e. You've surrendered your soul for a sack of chicken shite.
Over the 150-ish year-old history of college football there has NEVER been an adequate system for ascertaining a national champion. Even 2014, with its "playoff", was severely flawed. 128 teams and 4 make this playoff?
(Case in Point: So long as college football fans still talk and/or type there will be conflict and drama re 2014's TCU). In lieu of an adequate system for crowning a college football national champion writers and other pundits of numerous institutions, fraternities, cliques, and saloons have... Voted.
BOTTOM LINE (Because I promised): Any respectable (and respect-worthy) university (or similar institution) should, when deciding which national championship(s) to claim, consider one (and only one) criterium: Do we (the institution in question), in good faith, and with just prudence, WHOLEHEARTEDLY believe that our team of AD 1XYZ was PROBABLY the best team in the nation?
If you know good and well that said team probably was NOT the best team in the nation and yet you claim the national championship anyway (AP, UPI, Zeke's Shopping News, whatever NOTWITHSTANDING), then there is something to be held against your honor.
i.e. You've surrendered your soul for a sack of chicken shite.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 1:03 am
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