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The Senator hits another one out of the park in this blog post...

Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:00 am
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted by Leghumper
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:53 am to
the comment section is telling..

we're not the only ones tiring of GM's bullshite and the current president is cyphoning funds to academic endeavors just like Adams did.

however, anything short of D.Leeburn barking loudly isn't gonna change the trainwreck in Buttsmear
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 8:00 am to
These are all talking points taken from this very website...
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 8:14 am to
Just shows me that a lot of the views here are universally held in Dawgnation...

McGarity also comes off as a pompous a-hole in that interview...
Posted by ohmdawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 9:48 am to
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These are all talking points taken from this very website...





Posted by germandawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:02 am to
I don't see the problem....if you the not the best at you job, and Richt and company aren't and they prove so every season, then you have no reason to expect to be paid like the best. It doesn't make any difference if schools who have done less are paying more....that is their decision to make. If they wish to throw money at people who arent worth it that is a decision that will come back to haunt them.

Richt is not a champion. He could be...he has the ability...but he is simply too willing to accept mediocrity without getting too high or too low. This is in the mans DNA and it will never change. There is a reason he stayed at Miami knowing he wasn't going to play there and also knowing he could probably start somewhere else...because there is little or no pressure when you aren't the best.

This is also why he isnt being paid as much as his counterparts...because he doesn't want to ratchet up the expectations that would come along with more money and he for sure doesnt want the pressure that would come along with starting over somewhere else. This is why he is almost never mentioned for other jobs because no one thinks he could be enticed to leave UGA because we are a perfect marriage for a person like Richt. His demeanor would last about a week in Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge.


There are only a few things that would cause any change. If he starts losing to Tech on the regular he will get the Jim Donnan treatment. For whatever reason Richt has Tech's number and this isn't likely. He could also have a string of 6 or 7 win seasons but again that isn't likely considering how weak the SEC east and the fact that we are almost guaranteed 5 wins a season with 2 rent a wins, UK, Vandy and GT on the schedule. Going 3-3 against the rest of the SEC, especially when you only play Alabama and LSU every 20 years or so, is no great feat.

Richts is as good as it gets at UGA. If he stays long enough we will probably win a couple of nattys. It will be pure luck and will require some serious Auburn type smiling on us by the Gods but we are due. I dont think he stays that much longer. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't retire in 4 - 5 years and I dont think we win a natty in that period.
Posted by rb
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:25 am to
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the AA’s revenues exceeded the expenses by over $15 Million. If these same numbers were for Gaskill Inc instead of a 501 (c) we would call that $15 million “profit.”I am a long time Hartman Fund and Basketball Fund contributor. I have to ask, why am I writing checks to a 501 (c)3 that does not spend $15 million towards it’s purposes and accumulates a net worth (it calls it “net position ” ) of over $300 million?



Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I don't see the problem....if you the not the best at you job, and Richt and company aren't and they prove so every season, then you have no reason to expect to be paid like the best. It doesn't make any difference if schools who have done less are paying more....that is their decision to make. If they wish to throw money at people who arent worth it that is a decision that will come back to haunt them.

Richt is not a champion. He could be...he has the ability...but he is simply too willing to accept mediocrity without getting too high or too low. This is in the mans DNA and it will never change. There is a reason he stayed at Miami knowing he wasn't going to play there and also knowing he could probably start somewhere else...because there is little or no pressure when you aren't the best.

This is also why he isnt being paid as much as his counterparts...because he doesn't want to ratchet up the expectations that would come along with more money and he for sure doesnt want the pressure that would come along with starting over somewhere else. This is why he is almost never mentioned for other jobs because no one thinks he could be enticed to leave UGA because we are a perfect marriage for a person like Richt. His demeanor would last about a week in Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge.


There are only a few things that would cause any change. If he starts losing to Tech on the regular he will get the Jim Donnan treatment. For whatever reason Richt has Tech's number and this isn't likely. He could also have a string of 6 or 7 win seasons but again that isn't likely considering how weak the SEC east and the fact that we are almost guaranteed 5 wins a season with 2 rent a wins, UK, Vandy and GT on the schedule. Going 3-3 against the rest of the SEC, especially when you only play Alabama and LSU every 20 years or so, is no great feat.

Richts is as good as it gets at UGA. If he stays long enough we will probably win a couple of nattys. It will be pure luck and will require some serious Auburn type smiling on us by the Gods but we are due. I dont think he stays that much longer. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't retire in 4 - 5 years and I dont think we win a natty in that period.


Well stated and yes, we have discussed this issue many times on this board. The finale in the article nails the same conclusion we have already come to:

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In the end, though, I’m not sure any of this really matters. Here’s the most revealing thing McGarity has to say:

“I sleep pretty well at night, because I know when I go home I’ve given it my best,” McGarity said. “But I’ll let others judge me. I have a boss. We all have bosses. And my boss is the president. So he’ll let me know how I’m doing.”

I don’t think he’s the only one there who sleeps well at night. At least as long as the money keeps rolling in. That’s the Georgia Way.
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And since our university remains one of the most profitable in the nation, I am reluctant to criticize their strategy; it is certainly working from a cost/benefit perspective.

But here's the rub. McGarity's argument is that we are investing appropriately based on results compared to our top competitors. The problem with this approach/logic is that it doesn't represent the reality of the current coaching/sports investment market and it is reactive rather than proactive. The programs winning NC's are investing first to foster a higher level of achievement. While McGarity is clearly saying that we won't invest at a higher level until better results are achieved at the same level of investment. And nothing will change until the model for success employed by our admins begins to fail aka profitability declines.

I would add (and have done so a number of times), what McGarity is not saying publicly is that academics is the priority for our admins as well it should be. UGA, like Texas, has been focused on increasing it's academic standing. As such our priority will remain academic investment and we will never go all in to win a football NC under our current administration. Call it accepting mediocrity in sports or whatever but it is what it is and once I understood this the gnashing of teeth ended.

Disclaimer: I acknowledge that I still yell a lot during our football games.
Posted by TMDawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:45 am to
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“That’s about where we are,” he said. “That’s about where we should be. Are we there with LSU, and Alabama and Auburn of recent years? Probably not, because they’ve done great things, they’ve played in the bigger bowls. They’ve had great success on a national level better than us. So it’s all reflective of performance.”

Not sure why he says stuff like that publicly. I honestly don't think he realizes the way most of what he says comes across. It's not just with this, it's basically with everything he's had to publicly address. He needs a PR guy handcuffed to him that goes everywhere with him that he has to consult with before he speaks.

My problem with the above is that it's clearly "the rich get richer." You can't approach it as "well, they're more successful so they can hire more 'consulting staff' and can spend more on recruiting and can have nicer facilities." Maybe, just maybe, doing those things are a factor in their success...I'm just sayin'....
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:52 am to
McGarity stands in front of the fireplace and says to it, "Once you warm me up, then I'll give you firewood."
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:56 am to
From the SEC Rant... below are just SEC games.


atlua LINK /


Nick Saban — $7.1 million 50-11 (just at Bama)
Kevin Sumlin — $5 million 13-11
Les Miles — $4.3 million 56-24
Hugh Freeze — $4 million 11-13
Steve Spurrier — $4 million 44-36 (just at SC)
Gus Malzahn — $3.8 million 11-5
Butch Jones — $3.6 million 5-11
Mark Stoops — $3.6 million 2-14
Jim McElwain— $3.5 million
Gary Pinkel — $3.4 million 63-50 (16-8 since joining SEC)
Mark Richt — $3.3 million 78-34
Bret Bielema — $3.2 million 2-14
Dan Mullen — $3 million 22-26
Derek Mason — Private 0-8



This makes it look like McGarity is a genius, we have a really good deal going on. Best bang for the buck in the conference.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:58 am to
Posted by TMDawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:03 am to
That list is just mind boggling and makes you wonder what the breaking point is going to be. Guys like Sumlin, Freeze, Stoops, and Jones getting paid like that...has to be an AD's nightmare. And Pinkel will probably move up that list soon too.
Posted by Dawgman77
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:10 am to
NM

This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by Dawgman77
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:13 am to
Let's face it folks, what we have in place now is a President, Jere Moorhead, who is the exact opposite of Adams. He is a lifelong academic who the Board of Regents put in place to be non-controversial after the years of Adams controversy. He, in my opinion, will also be very timid to "rattle the cages" in Athens.

The Athletic Board runs the show and McGarity is their hire. The UGA President is also head of the Athletic Assn. They are responsible for looking at athletics across the board, both men's and women's. They love to use the success of the mid level programs as overall athletic success at UGA.

So, until the football fans make it known by either withholding $$$ or convincing the Athletic Board that we want the best and won't settle for anything less, nothing is going to change.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:28 am to
To me it's not even about paying Richt more...

It's more about using the money to fund the extra "analysts" & other ancillary personnel that most other programs are using to assist the 9 actual coaches with the day to day BS that could free them up to use their time more efficiently...

It's about being aggressive in looking for & spending the money on a high profile S&C coach & his assistants so the players can be the best they can be...

It's about not moaning & groaning about building an IPF that your successful HC would really like to have to help recruiting & productivity on "bad" days, a facility which will also be available to other Univ. sports teams to help them train in also...

I could be completely off base but it seems we've lost a lotta emphasis on country club sports too... Hate or love Vince & Damon but we seemed to put more emphasis on them & winning NC's under their watch...

Quit pinching a penny till it hollers, start being more forward thinking, more proactive rather than reactive... instead of waiting to the last second to do everything...
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:34 am to
Exactly, Dallas. For ease of my own sanity, I'll just repost what I put in the comments on GTP:

quote:

John Calipari is dead on: “Administrations win championships.”

Sadly, I’m in the camp that believes that McGarity is doing exactly the job he’s asked to do. Until the old guard, stuffed shirt, scriveners and misers in B-M die off and are replaced by progressively-minded folks who understand the nature of the modern CFB landscape (the “arms race”), the The Georgia Way will be alive and well. ADGM will continue to do his best Scrooge McDuck impression, high-diving from the vault, spitting a stream of gold doubloons like a fountain.

Red Panties aside, I think Damon Evans was our best shot at keeping up with the SEC Joneses from a culture standpoint. Right now, we’re no better than facing a room full of Montgomery Burnses who are making the calls on the IPF, coaching salaries, etc.

Paying our current coach(es) more isn’t going to accomplish anything right now, anyway. They’ve already shown they can come within striking distance of a NC appearance (’02, ’07, ’12) with B-M holding the status quo, so you’ll never convince the AD’s office that they’re doing anything wrong – we’ve just been unlucky in that regard. The problem with most of the seasons where Lady Luck has appeared to spurn the Dawgs can often be attributed to the team not being adequately prepared for all 14 games. Even when they fire on all cylinders and curb stomp a Top 10 Auburn team, they come out flat against USCjr and send the band & cheerleaders out to play against the Gators.

THAT is a deficiency in coaching. I’m pro-Richt, historically, but I know that the killer instinct that ignites teams to win championships isn’t there to the level that it needs to be, because after all, our HC is very open about the fact that “there’s more important things in life than football.”

The galling subtext of McGarity’s (paraphrased) “Of course we don’t have what LSU, Bama & Auburn have – we don’t spend that kind of money” is that they’re totally fine with 9-3, 8-4 seasons if it keeps a steady tide of cash rolling in. Once something puts a dent in the bottom line, then it will generate enough attention to warrant DISCUSSING changes. All the while, our neighbors to every side will continue finding ways to stack crystal footballs. (I don’t know what to call the God-awful CFP trophy. The Belk Bowl champ’s trophy is more elite-looking than the gold-toned parentheses monstrosity).
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:39 am to
Posted by TMDawg
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:43 am to
You pretty much hit it right on the head Dallas. Completely agree. It's not that I think we should dump a bunch of extra money towards Richt, but rather it should go towards all the support staff type issues, facilities, etc.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:43 am to
It also has a lot less to do with paying coaches because they deserve it and more to do with paying them because if we don't, someone else will. We're a year or two removed from some other program coming in and offering more than what we're paying for Lily, McLendon, Bobo, Sherrer, and Friend.

The quotes aren't grating because of the spending philosophy they represent (it's hard to sit here and say that UGA isn't getting everything and more for each penny it spends). What's grating is that the quotes seem to be both tone-deaf to what is bugging the fans and ignorant to how the current spending market is working. But short of changing their philosophy, I really don't know what else McGarity could say that would be better here. Not saying anything would piss us all off even more and saying it in a more PR-friendly way would only come off as patronizing. Give him credit, he says it like it is. It's just that what it is isn't what we want to hear.
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