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Mel Kiper on Marshall, Coates, Duke

Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:02 am
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@AUBlog: Mel Kiper: "It's another year if you want a WR you can get them." Said Auburn's Sammie Coates & Duke Williams are 1st-2nd round options.
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@AUBlog: Mel Kiper says he could see Auburn QB Nick Marshall drafted in the 4th-5th round as a defensive back, maybe as a safety.

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@JoelAEricksonAU: Kiper compares Sammie Coates to Alexander Wright, calls him a second-round, possible late-first, says Duke Williams could be similar
Posted by bird35
Georgia
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:11 am to
Sigh
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3660 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:45 am to
Someone call Gus, tell him to let Nick play DB in the bowl game and let JJ qb.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:04 am to
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Someone call Gus, tell him to let Nick play DB in the bowl game and let JJ qb
no.

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Duke and Coates late first to second
Well, bye
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33272 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:08 am to
Anyone without O&B heavily tinted glasses knew they'd be thought of as 1/2 round picks.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3660 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:43 am to
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no.


Dang...I thought it was at least a little interesting...or minor league type funny...
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11437 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:50 am to
I'm sorry but I just don't buy any hype on Sammie Coates. You can draft on combine numbers he is going to put up but it's simple. He cannot catch a fricking football.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:07 pm to
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'm sorry but I just don't buy any hype on Sammie Coates. You can draft on combine numbers he is going to put up but it's simple. He cannot catch a fricking football.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:12 pm to
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He cannot catch a fricking football.


Yeah, OK. Strong overstatement. He's made countless extremely difficult catches in traffic. Don't be retarded, seriously. Everyone knows that he loses track of the ball...but what is more valuable? A guy that can run past the entire defense and score from anywhere on the field but who happens to drop a few balls, or a guy who can't create separation, can't stretch the field, but who "catches everything"?

Explosive plays are worth more than routine plays. Just like a home run is worth more than a single. Terrell Owens dropped countless balls during his career, in fact he ranked near the top in that statistic ever since they started tracking it.

ProFootballFocus did a three-year study from 2009-2011 on drop rates. DeSean Jackson graded 4th worst with a 12.95% drop rate...on the flip-side Earl Bennett and Kevin Walter graded 1st and 3rd best with 3.15% and 3.38% drop rates. Who's the better receiver on that list?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:33 pm to
Here are last year's drop rates for top WR prospects:




Note the worst drop rate belonging to Martavis Bryant, who is currently sitting at 7 touchdowns and 450 yards in only 7 games played for Steelers. You can't teach physical ability, ie: being able to do this:

LINK


Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:40 pm to
Good piece by Joel E. on DB's in the NFL who played QB in college.

LINK
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33272 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:42 pm to
You're right, Meta. The knock on Julio Jones was his stone hands and we've saw where he was drafted and how he's doing. This conversation is almost pointless.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:08 pm to
Sometimes the way Coates struggles to find the long ball in the air, I've wondered if he needs glasses/contact lenses/lasix.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Someone call Gus, tell him to let Nick play DB in the bowl game and let JJ qb.


It would be awesome. LOL

Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by CreoleAubie
NC
Member since Sep 2008
2909 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:07 pm to
I of course hope Coates makes it, but my opinion is he will flounder away. Duke will make it, but he won't.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:16 pm to
My biggest issue with Coates is that he looks lost tracking down balls and seems to take an "alternative approach" by catching with his body not hands.

If he can learn to catch consistently in traffic and combine it with deep threat he could be all pro
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:23 pm to
But Randy Moss said "these days they teach WRs to catch with their hands, back in my day it was just don't let the ball hit the ground."

Sammie has leaned neither
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4279 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Sammie has leaned neither


Yes, a guy with over 200 yards receiving in the Iron Bowl doesn't know how to catch.
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