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re: I wonder how St. Louis racial unrest is affecting Mizzou's minority players?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:04 pm to randomways
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:04 pm to randomways
Killz will be happy to know minority native Mizzou son, Devin Booker, was unphased by the civil unrest and scored a career high 19 points with 5 3-pointers tonight against UT Arlington.
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
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BluegrassBelle
I wonder how St. Louis racial unrest is affecting Mizzou's minority players?
Killz will be happy to know minority native Mizzou son, Devin Booker, was unphased by the civil unrest and scored a career high 19 points with 5 3-pointers tonight against UT Arlington.
But that's basketball, belle. Killz is talking about a sport that requires athletic skill and mental fortitude. Footsball.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:09 pm to scrooster
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Ummmm, yeah, right. Drug violence has nothing to do with any of it. Drug Cartels are such peaceful well-intended organizations. Drug users are such valuable contributors to society.
Drug cartels thrive on the War on Drugs because illegal = major mark-up and profit as well as control of the production and distribution. Their violence is a result of the War on Drugs, not a cause of it.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:12 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Killz will be happy to know minority native Mizzou son, Devin Booker, was unphased by the civil unrest and scored a career high 19 points with 5 3-pointers tonight against UT Arlington.
From Moss Point MS?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:14 pm to Masterag
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Ok. Sorry, I need glasses.
No problem. Everybody makes misteaks. Accept mee.
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What town you from, if you don't mind me asking?
I don't mind at all. That's why I show it below my avatar.
Vicksburg, MS. Roughly 50% black and 50% public officials. If you mean earlier life, I was raised in Cleburne, Texas. <5% black but still plenty of racists. They just didn't have as many opportunities to express it.Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:18 pm to finestfirst79
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Vicksburg, MS.
Vicksburg, represent, yo. I was born there. I miss it sometimes. Solly's Tamales and the original Top O' The River, especially.
Pretty much the entire Delta region is approximately 50% black. Mississippi has the highest percentage black population of any state in the country.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:20 pm to the808bass
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From Moss Point MS?
He was supposed to be the great Mizzou legacy to bring basketball back to prominence?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:24 pm to finestfirst79
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No problem. Everybody makes misteaks. Accept
Lol. I meant back home in TX. Yeah, I've golfed in cleburn and can imagine there being lots of it. Wth you doing in Mississippi, anyways?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:34 pm to randomways
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Vicksburg, represent, yo. I was born there.
As were my 3 kids. You're not another one, are ya?
Top O' The River was one of my favorites. The casinos I have no complaints at all about, save one: they put Top O' The River out of business. Rowdy's I believe is owned by the same family and serves excellent catfish, but the current owner has found God and stopped serving beer, plus it is nowhere near the river and that fantastic view TOTR had. If you get here again, go to 1) Walnut Hills at lunch or call ahead for an evening meal requesting the round table. Your mama couldn't cook it up any better. Aggies who have stayed here for Ole Miss games agree. 2) Rusty's on Washington. Considerably more expensive, but a very good meal. Go at 5 or expect to wait. The filet mignon is about the best beef I've ever eaten.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:39 pm to Masterag
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Wth you doing in Mississippi, anyways?
I had an opportunity to come here while still in the Army and work at the Waterways Experiment Station, instead of moving on to another troop unit, a job at which I had proven to myself to be a failure. So I came here to do real engineering shite (technical term). And the work was so interesting (BTHO Russia!) that I stayed on as a civilian. 32 years total now.
Never golfed, but I've long admired my father's club championship trophies
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:43 pm to Bogie00
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I know for fact, that City of Ferguson would like to have more black police officers. It is difficult to hire, if the pool of applicants does not yield interested, qualified black applicants.
That might work for a while, particularly among whites, but my guess is that time has passed.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:57 pm to randomways
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Drug cartels thrive on the War on Drugs because illegal = major mark-up and profit as well as control of the production and distribution. Their violence is a result of the War on Drugs, not a cause of it.
Oh sheesh.
You are either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
You obviously don't have a clue about the nature of the savages you are defending.
This is a discussion to have on the OT board.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:03 pm to finestfirst79
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Top O' The River was one of my favorites. The casinos I have no complaints at all about, save one: they put Top O' The River out of business. Rowdy's I believe is owned by the same family and serves excellent catfish, but the current owner has found God and stopped serving beer, plus it is nowhere near the river and that fantastic view TOTR had. If you get here again, go to 1) Walnut Hills at lunch or call ahead for an evening meal requesting the round table. Your mama couldn't cook it up any better. Aggies who have stayed here for Ole Miss games agree. 2) Rusty's on Washington. Considerably more expensive, but a very good meal. Go at 5 or expect to wait. The filet mignon is about the best beef I've ever eaten.
Thanks. That sort of information is exactly what I need. I no longer have family there after my grandmother passed away -- though we still have a family plot at the cemetery with room for a few more of us -- so I had no-one I could really ask about where to go nowadays. I can live without beer so long as the catfish is as tasty as the original. I recall metaphorically falling to my knees and screaming "Nooooo!" when I heard the gambling boats had forced (or bought) out Top O' The River and that excellent view of the two bridges at night. I just looked up Rowdy's, and right now there is literally nothing I'd rather spend $15 on than a large catfish plate. People hereabouts (North Carolina) make a fine barbecue but don't really understand what it means to make a truly good fried catfish filet with hushpuppies.
I remember Walnut Hills, actually. We used to go there on Sundays. Really good food. I don't recall Rusty's on Washington, though. Is it relatively new? (Since TOTR and Solly's were both on Washington, I may have just passed by in favor of my catfish and tamale fixes.) But now I have some concrete reason to head down that way again. Well, that and to visit family in Jackson, Yazoo, and Natchez, but a wise man (me) once said that family is nice, but good eatin' is better. Thanks for your suggestions.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:05 pm to scrooster
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Oh sheesh.
You are either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
You obviously don't have a clue about the nature of the savages you are defending.
This is a discussion to have on the OT board.
No need to continue the discussion. You're just plain-out wrong. Sorry. I'm neither naive nor stupid, and if you seriously don't know the history of organized crime and Prohibition, this conversation will go nowhere until you study up.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:11 pm to randomways
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No need to continue the discussion. You're just plain-out wrong. Sorry. I'm neither naive nor stupid, and if you seriously don't know the history of organized crime and Prohibition, this conversation will go nowhere until you study up.
Oh, lulz ... I see. You're comparing what the drug cartels in Mexico are doing to what prohibition era bootleggers and moonshiners did in the early 20th Century U.S.?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:21 pm to scrooster
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Oh, lulz ... I see. You're comparing what the drug cartels in Mexico are doing to what prohibition era bootleggers and moonshiners did in the early 20th Century U.S.?
Witty response. "lulz" I mean, I am devastated by your grasp of the rejoinder.
The comparison between the two as paradigms is both apt and accurate. The gangs and more organized crime units (such as the Commission) became enormously powerful and wealthy in the wake of Prohibition. And with wealth and power came the use of violence to protect said wealth and power. If you seriously think it was just "bootleggers" and "moonshiners" like some hippy-dippy version of the Dukes of Hazzard, you clearly have no clue as the how the crime rates worked at the time. From Murder Inc. to widespread use of fear and violence to control the system, the Prohibition era was less about some guy smuggling booze and more about organized crime figures running their syndicates very much like the Mexican cartels do now. Not knowing that is just plain ignorance. Yes, violence accompanies crime regardless. But the scale of violence in organized crime was unprecedented once they had such lucrative profit streams. The exact same thing happened with the advent of the War on Drugs. I don't suppose you noticed that, prior to the modern incarnation of drug interdiction, violent methods by the cartels (Columbian, Panamanian, Nicaraguan, etc) were decidedly lower-key and generally restricted to professional disputes. Once the stake became billions in illegal narcotic trade, the violence increased to unprecedented levels.
This isn't arguable. This is basic (very basic) history, to say nothing of basic (very basic) sociological analysis.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:27 pm to randomways
Organized crime makes a lot of money selling ............ Cigarettes.
Which are legal.
Why?
Which are legal.
Why?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:30 pm to the808bass
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Organized crime makes a lot of money selling ............ Cigarettes.
Which are legal.
Why?
To avoid taxes. But cigarette smuggling isn't even remotely on the same scale as drug smuggling. People aren't getting 50 to life for tax evasion.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:33 pm to randomways
So taxed legal drugs will still have the potential involvement of organized crime.
Sounds like a solid argument you got running there.
(Btw, a guy got choked out in NYC recently as he was being arrested for allegedly selling loosies.)
Sounds like a solid argument you got running there.
(Btw, a guy got choked out in NYC recently as he was being arrested for allegedly selling loosies.)
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:36 pm to the808bass
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So taxed legal drugs will still have the potential involvement of organized crime.
Sounds like a solid argument you got running there.
(Btw, a guy got choked out in NYC recently as he was being arrested for allegedly selling loosies.)
It's a sound argument if you actually think about it rather than make an overgeneralized comparison. Cigarette smugglers aren't ramping up the violence over a few cents to the dollar. Mexican cartels traffic in hard drugs because that's an order of magnitude, not degree, more lucrative than cigarettes, and the level of violence is commensurate. Sorry, that wasn't a very good counterargument. The issue being discussed is whether the War on Drugs begets the level of violence rather than responds to it. And it does. There's no War on Tobacco, and therefore you don't open the paper in the morning to read about hundreds dead in a clash over Marlboro vs Camel.
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(Btw, a guy got choked out in NYC recently as he was being arrested for allegedly selling loosies.)
I'm guessing he wasn't choked out because he was selling loosies as opposed to any other crime. And when it's the cops doing it, you're not actually talking about criminal violence (unless the cop is indicted for excessive force and/or manslaughter)
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:39 pm
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