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re: Question for Straws Drawn at Random

Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:48 pm to
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I actually see something like this happening but the fact is: It doesn't even need to be a massacre. Just a couple of cops beat up on a couple of protesters and it sort of just spirals out of control from there.



I got you. It just seems like it's always something more punitive and brutal than a couple of cops beating protesters. High tensions at play and you just need somebody to pull a trigger and all hell breaks loose. It's a high energy reaction. When it gets out of control, it does so with explosive force.

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I see a definite "eat the rich" mentality here from common people


Isn't it always? Take note rich people, being a corrupt dick and abusing power historically ends up with your head on a stick.

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I also see those who are using the protests to quietly collect power. This is sort of analogous to the "self defense organizations" in Michoacan -- which have been, basically, a bunch of dudes with guns who took over towns for "protection" and who basically dominate them.


It's what you'd expect. Those with power taking the opportunity to get more. It's never a good guy who makes it happen either. That's scary if I'm an average Mexican, but I'm sure they've lived in fear for long enough. Maybe they're just sick of it.

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It's worse, too, because several states have already declared that they want independence from the State of Mexico (Yucatan being one of them), I can't imagine what'll happen if central gets cut off or if those states seek sovereignty through unconventional channels.


Civil war?

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shite is getting fricked up here.


Makes me glad to be typing this from Louisiana.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:56 pm to
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I got you. It just seems like it's always something more punitive and brutal than a couple of cops beating protesters. High tensions at play and you just need somebody to pull a trigger and all hell breaks loose. It's a high energy reaction. When it gets out of control, it does so with explosive force.


I feel like with the internet -- it takes a lot less. Like at this point we have people all over the world watching, and most of Mexico is doing the same. One incident is now is all it'll take before things get out of control.

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It's what you'd expect. Those with power taking the opportunity to get more. It's never a good guy who makes it happen either. That's scary if I'm an average Mexican, but I'm sure they've lived in fear for long enough. Maybe they're just sick of it.


Your typical Mexican isn't even that impacted by what goes on with the government -- except for elections where they're bribed to vote one way or another.

Most of them have been living the hell of answering to cartels for the better part of a few decades, so they're kind of accustomed to the lunatic dictator angle.

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Civil war?


I have no doubt that Governors of other states will try to break away and start their own nations if there's a large movement in Mexico City.

Like I said, a couple of states have already tried (and have historically tried before) so I could see them immediately going asunder if given the chance.

I'd serve in Yucatan's army if they'd have me.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:03 pm to
Do you plan on riding this out for a reason or do you have no choice? Either way, godspeed
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:03 pm to
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the time is ripe for Straws to become dictator of Mexico


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Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:11 pm to
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom



Are you feeling like getting out of there? I'd be a nervous if I were in a foreign country while this shite was going down.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:32 pm to
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quote: From what to what? I assume they are an extremely corrupt version of democracy now?


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Extremely corrupt version of democracy


That's redundant...so it's just a normal democracy then.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:24 pm to
What's the current attitude towards the U. S.? Do Mexicans think America is controlling things?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Do you plan on riding this out for a reason or do you have no choice? Either way, godspeed


I can leave any time I want, but I make good money and I've been using my influence as a teacher and self-defense instructor to start building my little militia.

There's a reason I offer self-defense lessons at half price for students.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:26 pm to
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Are you feeling like getting out of there? I'd be a nervous if I were in a foreign country while this shite was going down.


For the long haul, only way I get out of here is if the military takes over everything -- but even then I have the background to be productive in a stratocracy.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:31 pm to
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What's the current attitude towards the U. S.? Do Mexicans think America is controlling things?


Personally, I think Mexico/Mexicans is/are ambivalent to the U.S. I know a lot of citizens here who would love if America just invaded and took everything for themselves, but simultaneously hate American culture and the like.

There's always the threat that America is controlling everything, and I can't say I blame people for thinking that. Even the massacre mentioned earlier -- there are strong indications that the CIA was heavily involved with communist degutting.

I can't imagine America is thrilled with the Mexican government, though.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:48 pm to
El Chapo will be an awesome UN ambassador.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:55 pm to
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El Chapo will be an awesome UN ambassador.


I'd kill that short piece of shite with my bare hands if I got the chance.
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