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Obama's Immigration Speech: Whatcha think?

Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:16 pm
I think it's a pretty good plan in theory. There are a couple holes in it that I see and question how they fill them.

1. How do you legitimately tell how long an illegal immigrant has been in the country?

2. What do you do with the ones who haven't been here 5 years?

3. If you haven't been here 5 years can you just wait until you have been here 5 years and then come register? Or does the time frame move with each passing year? Seems kinda meaningless otherwise.

It's certainly not the mass pardon that many super conservatives were betting the house on.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:18 pm to
This will go well.

frick it.

Indiana.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:18 pm to
Everybody that has entered this country illegally has broken the law. They should be deported since they're criminals. Obama said criminals can't stay here.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 7:19 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:20 pm to
Do you deport the parents of children born here? They are legal citizens after all. What do we do with the millions of children then?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:22 pm to
The politics board is orgasmic right now.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Everybody that has entered this country illegally has broken the law.


But what about the ones who broke our law to come here, because their country fricking sucks, to become hard working folks that don't pay taxes?

Not all illegals are criminals, yes, there are some. I know several illegals and they are all hard working folks, working shitty jobs, that want to be citizens, but are scared of speaking up because they are illegal.

They came here because America.

frick yeah.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30161 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Everybody that has entered this country illegally has broken the law. They should be deported since they're criminals. Obama said criminals can't stay here.


Motherfricking this
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30161 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

What do we do with the millions of children then?


Deport all of them
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:30 pm to
They are US citizens though.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30161 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:33 pm to
And their parents are illegals so it's either deport the parents and fill up alot of orphanages or they stay with their parents and get deported.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:36 pm to
You can't deport citizens so you would have to fill up the orphanages and homes. There is already a huge overflow of kids do you want to add a few million more?Plus it's kind of morally disturbing.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:36 pm to
Serious question: does any other country in the world deal with this shite in the way that we do? I know there are plenty of countries that are heavy handed, but I'm genuinely curious if there are other countries that pussy-foot with this shite and have similar problems as us?
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30161 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:37 pm to
That's why I say the kids should be deported with the parents.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:37 pm to
I've wondered about it too. I don't know the answer.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:38 pm to
It's illegal to deport US citizens.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:39 pm to
This country is different from everyone else.

Most illegals are here for a better life.

And they have done just that. They've made a better life.

Time to make them pay their fare share, and stop giving them everything because we don't know what to do with them.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:39 pm to
I have no idea what Obama's plan is, and I sure as shite did not watch a speech. Reform needs to happen in some capacity. Many of the illegals do a hell of a lot more for our economy than our ignorant entitlement class that look down on their nose at them.

It is true that these people do work that the vast majority of Americans will not do. Many people are too good for manual labor. Also, how about the illegals in the military, should they be deported too?
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30161 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:40 pm to
Laws can be altered
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:40 pm to
Correct me if I misunderstood him but the ones who come forward and register will be allowed to stay temporarily and pay taxes but not have citizenship and therefore no voting power correct?
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:42 pm to
lol ok
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