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ETA: What is the rule in terms of illegal snapping?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:38 pm
Not that we deserved to be bailed out but does the fact that Avery Young is standing up and Marshall moving toward the line of scrimmage not make for an illegal snap?
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:54 pm to RandySavage
I am not watching the replay of any if that game even one time but someone told me it bounced off Marshall's leg. But
Posted on 11/9/14 at 3:13 pm to Aubie Spr96
Anybody got an answer for this?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:02 pm to RandySavage
Dismukes hiked it against his own arse...craziest shite I've seen from a center in a while. On a side not if Avery is moving it should have been a false start.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:05 pm to plazadweller
It actually hit Nick in the leg. From behind it looks like he snapped it into his butt, but that was his hand popping his thigh.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:11 pm to plazadweller
No. he hiked it to Nick. Bounced off Nick and went back through Dismukes legs
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:26 pm to plazadweller
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Dismukes hiked it against his own arse
Yep.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:39 pm to RandySavage
no such thing as an illegal snapper... all snappers are a good thing
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:53 pm to RandySavage
Nick was moving forward and not set at the snap which would be an illegal motion/false start but it wasn't called and we did everything to deserve losing that way so whatever.
We didn't even deserve the ball back after we ran a read option on the fricking two yard line Running something like that where there's a clear chance for a miscommunication or a bad read and a fumble when all you really need to do is call a dive up the middle is beyond me.
But the offense didn't lose that game, that shite is on the D.
We didn't even deserve the ball back after we ran a read option on the fricking two yard line Running something like that where there's a clear chance for a miscommunication or a bad read and a fumble when all you really need to do is call a dive up the middle is beyond me.
But the offense didn't lose that game, that shite is on the D.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:59 pm to RandySavage
I believe there is a different penalty for what happened and it wasn't called.
This is from Wikipedia:
I think if the refs were able to call a penalty on the play, it would have been an illegal shift that would not result in a dead ball foul and could be declined by the defense. A false start is where the offense gets set and then starts the play before the ball is snapped. That would have been a dead ball penalty and would not have been declinable by the defense.
In my opinion, this was mostly Dismukes at fault, but Marshall deserves a bit of blame as well. We were in a two minute drill and we are already a hurry up offense. Why Marshall decided to start barking orders after the offense had gotten set, I don't know. But Dismukes shouldn't have snapped it.
This is from Wikipedia:
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while both the NCAA and NFHSAA make a distinction between an "illegal shift" and "illegal motion"; an illegal shift refers to players shifting and not coming to a complete stop before the snap while illegal motion refers to a player who is in motion towards the line of scrimmage, or a player who is not a "back" in motion.[2] In both leagues, however, the penalty for illegal motion/illegal shift is five yards from the previous spot and replay the down.
I think if the refs were able to call a penalty on the play, it would have been an illegal shift that would not result in a dead ball foul and could be declined by the defense. A false start is where the offense gets set and then starts the play before the ball is snapped. That would have been a dead ball penalty and would not have been declinable by the defense.
In my opinion, this was mostly Dismukes at fault, but Marshall deserves a bit of blame as well. We were in a two minute drill and we are already a hurry up offense. Why Marshall decided to start barking orders after the offense had gotten set, I don't know. But Dismukes shouldn't have snapped it.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:01 pm to StringedInstruments
Bingo. We should have been flagged, but they are not dead ball fouls. A&M simply would have declined the penalty.
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