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Les Miles=Gene Stallings

Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Bama Shadow
Member since Jan 2009
574 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:29 pm
LSU fans, I and many other older Bama fans feel your pain regarding Les Miles and his coaching philosophy. Gene Stallings did the same thing when he was at Bama, run the ball, play defense, play up or down to competition. We even experienced the same phenomenon when he hired Homer Smith as yall are experiencing with Cam Cameron. Smth was hailed as an offensive guru who would finally open up the playbook, throw the ball around, etc. But Stallings handcuffed him in the same way Miles is doing with Cameron.

Both coaches win a lot of games, and will on occasion catch lightening in a bottle and win a championship. But it doesn't make it any less frustrating as a fan to watch. So amid all the trolling, smack talk, etc. keep in mind some of us know exactly how you feel. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it's hard to argue with either's success, but that doesn't make it any less aggravating to watch the product on the field.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27227 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:30 pm to
And I always say that we watch sports to be entertained. Nothing about watching that offense struggle entertains LSU fans. shite is depressing.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:31 pm to
2/10
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:31 pm to
Les is more.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4292 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:31 pm to
I can only hope LSU gets a set of coaches like we had for 10 years after Stallings....

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17272 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:33 pm to
Seems clear that if Cameron = Homer Smith, then Chavis = Bill Oliver.

Wonder who on the LSU staff is = DuBose?

This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Wonder who on the LSU staff is = DuBose?

Thats just downright mean..
Posted by Bama Shadow
Member since Jan 2009
574 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:36 pm to
I have always thought Chavis and Oliver are cut from the same cloth. Even though Oliver ran a 3-4 and Chavis runs a 4-3 their philosophies and personnel are very similar.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:38 pm to
Say what you want about DuBose, but he wins everywhere he coaches
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:40 pm to
are you kidding? Stallings had to have a staffer whose sole job was to check his pulse every 5 minutes.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
64951 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

And I always say that we watch sports to be entertained. Nothing about watching that offense struggle entertains LSU fans. shite is depressing.


2012 game must have really blew for you.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30184 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

LSU fans, I and many other older Bama fans feel your pain regarding Les Miles and his coaching philosophy. Gene Stallings did the same thing when he was at Bama, run the ball, play defense, play up or down to competition. We even experienced the same phenomenon when he hired Homer Smith as yall are experiencing with Cam Cameron. Smth was hailed as an offensive guru who would finally open up the playbook, throw the ball around, etc. But Stallings handcuffed him in the same way Miles is doing with Cameron.

Both coaches win a lot of games, and will on occasion catch lightening in a bottle and win a championship. But it doesn't make it any less frustrating as a fan to watch. So amid all the trolling, smack talk, etc. keep in mind some of us know exactly how you feel. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it's hard to argue with either's success, but that doesn't make it any less aggravating to watch the product on the field.
I can't imagine Miles being as stubborn as Stallings. Watching his offenses felt like fingernails on a chalkboard. At least Les is entertaining in his own right - eating grass - making weird facial expressions - jabbing pinky finger in the ear....
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Say what you want about DuBose, but he wins everywhere he coaches


I can picture him clapping now....
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:56 pm to
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play up or down to competition


This my biggest gripe about Les (not referring to MSU this year because they are legit).

But the constant struggles against shitty teams...eg Arkansas 2013/2012, Auburn 2012, Tennessee 2010. Too many losses to Arkansas and Ole Miss.



Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:58 pm to
Leave Coach Stalling out of this. Different time and place. He had to pick up the pieces left behind by Ray Perkins and Bill Curry.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:00 pm to
I disagree, I think 2013 showed that when the pieces are there this can be a fun offense to watch. LSU has to get better line play, and they have to be confident in Harris/Fournette/receivers. The talent is there and LSU has demonstrated willingness to use their playmakers before.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:03 pm to
I'm an older Bama fan and I enjoyed the Stallings era; he was just what we needed at that time. I'd rather win games ugly than lose 'em in style...
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78886 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:05 pm to
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play defense


We don't do that - thread is shite!
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:17 pm to
He is my friend. He won't change we may be Tennessee shortly.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9667 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Leave Coach Stalling out of this. Different time and place. He had to pick up the pieces left behind by Ray Perkins and Bill Curry.


Agreed. Horrendous comparison. Stallings went undefeated, and was in the SECCG seems like most of the time he was there. If not for Spurrier's historic run, who knows?


Les got lucky--are they still the only 2 loss BCS champion? With one loss being to K-E-N-T-U-C-K-Y??


Edited: I don't know if this is a troll or not--hard to tell, because apparently the cool kids around here like to do it.

But Les was handed a Ferrari. Stallings was handed a Taurus. We had lost to AU 4 years in a row leading into 1990 when he was hired.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 3:49 pm
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