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Florida is a big game for OJ Howard

Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19669 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:25 pm
You gotta think they are going to be focusing on Cooper until we do something else. If we are not targeting our 6'6" 240 4.5 40 TE in those circumstances, OJ would be pretty justified in transferring out to A&M, dropping back down to 225 like his body want to naturally, playing 2 years there and going in the first round as a WR. We gotta start using him. We have lots of guys who can block if thats all he is going to do here.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:35 pm to
This isn't a new thing though. We had Howard last year and he didn't record catches against:

Va Tech
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Chattanooga
Oklahoma

and he recorded one catch against:
LSU
Miss. St.
Georgia State
Arkansas


I suspect he will get more catches this weekend as Cooper should be double covered on a lot of plays. I am sure Sims can get him the football, and I don't think he's going to transfer because a draft eligible first round WR is catching tons of balls against the cupcakes of the schedule.

Howard has next year, and this year to impress. He impressed in his limited action last year and regardless if he catches a 12 yard gainer against FAU, NFL scouts are looking at him.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15842 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:47 pm to
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suspect he will get more catches this weekend as Cooper should be double covered on a lot of plays.


im not so sure that Florida wont just put VH3 on him. Kiffin is gonna be moving Coop all around the formation so it will be hard to keep him doubled. I just dont know if VH3 will follow him all around. I've asked Florida fans but havent got an answer.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah I think I read that OJ averaged 0.5 receptions/game after he outran LSU's secondary last year. For some reason, we just haven't made him a priority
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2277 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:56 pm to
Yeah, I'm not sure why people are surprised. All I hear about is how great he is, why is he being thrown the ball then? Do we have evidence of plays where he is being missed, or do people just want to fuss?
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3349 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:03 pm to
I don't see him getting many looks unless it's to the sidelines. I just don't think Sims is comfortable trying to attack the middle of the field unless it's a crossing route.
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
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OJ would be pretty justified in transferring out to A&M, dropping back down to 225 like his body want to naturally, playing 2 years there and going in the first round as a WR. We gotta start using him. We have lots of guys who can block if thats all he is going to do here.


I think he would have to sit out 2 years if he transfers to a school in the conference.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2277 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
Maybe it's Howard's fault that the ball isn't being thrown his way
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19669 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:16 pm to
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im not so sure that Florida wont just put VH3 on him
if they dont put VH3 and help cooper is going to be effective. none of their other CBs can match up with him
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Maybe it's Howard's fault that the ball isn't being thrown his way


It's possible. But the TE has never been a priority in a Lane Kiffin offense.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:58 pm to
Even at USC?
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12951 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:19 pm to
Until he can learn to block consistently he wont be a big target
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2277 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

It's possible. But the TE has never been a priority in a Lane Kiffin offense.

I heard the opposite after the hire.

2 QBs, 2 OCs, little production.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:22 pm to
Lining Howard at wr with Vogler in at TE will get the job done.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12951 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:23 pm to
Yea I thought USC always use the TE...The problem is that we have too many weapons.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Until he can learn to block consistently he wont be a big target


Why is that? I would understand if blocking struggles were keeping him off the field, but he's on the field a lot, moreso on running plays than passing plays.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12951 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:28 pm to
If he is only in on situations when he is going to get the ball that kind of gives away what type of play it is....Kind of weird that Michael Williams got more targets than our TE. It just seems that Blake Sims would rather throw to Cooper than anyone. In the playaction plays he would rather throw to Coop deep than the underneath guy everytime.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8089 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:33 pm to
I believe once teams double up on Coop, the ball will be directed towards OJ.
Matter of fact after watching the wall UK WR abuse the UF defender, I wouldn't be shocked if OJ caught more passes than Coop in the UF game regardless if Coop was or was not double teamed.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3349 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Maybe it's Howard's fault that the ball isn't being thrown his way


Could be. But I'm having a hard time believing that he's being completely blanketed as to only get 1 target in 3 games.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12951 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:47 pm to
Hopefully they will be unleashed on Saturday...Besides the WV game we didn't have to do much besides throw screens because they couldn't stop it.
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