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Boom's first three years at UF vs. a couple of anonymous coaches

Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:38 pm
Boom:
7-6, 11-2, 4-8 - 22-16 (year 4: 2-0 to date)

Anonymous 1:
4-7, 8-5, 9-5 - 21-17 (year 4: 7-5)

Anonymous 2:
9-2, 6-5-1, 6-6 - 21-13-1 (year 4: 7-5)

The two anonymous are considered two of the best coaches in the nation by most who aren't insane.



This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:39 pm to
I like Boom and always thought he would make a good coach. The only reason for me to pull against him is because he coaches another SEC power.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:40 pm to
How bad were Okie St and MSU before Miles and Saban took over? How bad was UF when Muschamp took over?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:41 pm to
On behalf of the rest of the SEC, please give him a contract extension. He has definitely earned it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

How bad was UF when Muschamp took over?


Pretty bad shape from top to bottom for lack of discipline, lack of playmakers, lack of OL, lack of TEs, lack of RBs, lack of a K, lack of an offense....pretty bad.

Not many SEC teams would have traded us offensive players for sure. Perhaps some on D.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:43 pm to
I don't know why you post any longer. No one takes you seriously.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:45 pm to
Why didn't you use their first three years at Bama and LSU?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Boom:
7-6, 11-2, 4-8 - 22-16 (year 4: 2-0 to date)

Anonymous 1:
4-7, 8-5, 9-5 - 21-17 (year 4: 7-5)

Anonymous 2:
6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 - 19-16-1 (year 4: 6-6)


Did these two coaches happen to inherit a team that were coming off some of the best recruiting classes around, and chalk full of talent? OR,

was one of them coming off program crippling sanctions who managed to turn the team around and not have the worst season the program has seen for over 30 years?

He inherited a team with tons of talent and tried to make it a pro-style offense and royally screwed the pooch. I only give him a pass because he finally admitted his dumbass was wrong.

He did worse than Zook, and this is his year to turn it around.......using someone else's offensive philosophy.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:46 pm to
Or Saban's year at Toledo?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Why didn't you use their first three years at Bama and LSU?


Why don't you think about that for a while and then come back and edit your post?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

roadGator


I've spilled some e-ink over this RG, but I'm done. If you guys love him so much, feel free to keep him. Having you as a permanent opponent used to be scary as shite.

This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

How bad were Okie St and MSU before Miles and Saban took over? How bad was UF when Muschamp took over?


Whup, sorry, someone already said it. Florida was not a university in shambles, at all.

Just coming off of two National Championships and fantastic recruiting classes (especially on defense). Muschamp had a stacked deck.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Or Saban's first year at Toledo?


Dang, forgot about Toledo. I'll update when I have time.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I've spilled some e-ink over this RG, but I'm done. If you guys love him so much, feel free to keep him. Having you as a permanent rival used to be scary as shite.


Not on me. I don't argue much. It's pointless here. No one has ever changed their minds on the SECR.

My opinion is that if he doesn't win 8 AND beat UG, I would want him to pack it up and head out. That would be disappointing because I'm rooting for him.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Why don't you think about that for a while and then come back and edit your post?


Why should he? Miles and Saban didn't hit their stride at either of their first HC jobs. I don't think Muschamp has it to be an HC, but the fact is that even if he does, he won't be realizing that potential at Florida. You're effectively on the job training for him. Again, that's if he even ends up being a good coach. Big IF, at the moment.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:51 pm to
Why should he?

Well, if you want me to actually spell it out, I was comparing each coach's first three years. That's probably why.

quote:

You're effectively on the job training for him


I'm not doing anything for him but cheering for the team and for their success. You know, being a fan. Weird huh. I spend no time training him.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14631 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:55 pm to
I guess you missed my point.

If you're going to compare them, the most accurate comparisons would be what Saban inherited at Bama and what Miles inherited at LSU.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Why should he?

Well, if you want me to actually spell it out, I was comparing each coach's first three years. That's probably why


Fair enough, but that doesn't support any kind of broader comparison between Muschamp and the success of those two coaches. I'm trying to tell you that even if he does end up being some great coach, chances are that Florida won't be the one to reap the benefits. You guys have two MNCs in the last 8 seasons. The bar's a little higher than at Mich State or Okie Lite. You won't be keeping him around to watch his development. Why not move on now?

Again, I guess I should support your loyalty to the man, but I just don't get it. And I'm a pretty big Miles homer in spite of his quirks and shortcomings.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
43995 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Just coming off of two National Championships and fantastic recruiting classes (especially on defense). Muschamp had a stacked deck.

Yeah, between Zook and Muschamp, y'all are making Miles look like a genius instead of the Saban coattail rider he is.

It's supposed to be easy taking over for a departing national championship coach, isn't it?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139672 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
I get what you are saying but that's not what I was doing.

Coach 1 first three years as a HC
Coach 2 first three years as a HC
Coach 3 first three years as a HC

I'm not sure it would make sense to compare Coach 1's first three years and Coach 2's years 6,7 and 8 or whatever.
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