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AP Top Ten analysis 2012-2014 (weeks 1-7 only)

Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:08 pm
2012:

Week 1: #8 Michigan loses to #2 Alabama

Week 2: #10 Arkansas loses to ULM

Week 3: #2 USC loses to #21 Stanford, #10 Michigan State loses to #20 Notre Dame

Week 4: #6 Oklahoma loses to #15 Kansas State, #10 Clemson loses to #4 Florida State

Week 5: #8 Stanford loses to Washington

Week 6: #4 LSU loses to #10 Florida, #3 Florida State loses to N.C. State, #5 Georgia loses to #6 South Carolina

Week 7: #3 South Carolina loses to #9 LSU, #5 West Virginia loses to Texas Tech

2013:

Week 1: #5 Georgia lost to #8 Clemson

Week 2: #6 South Carolina lost to #11 Georgia

Week 3: #6 Texas A&M lost to #1 Alabama

Week 4: None

Week 5: #6 LSU lost to #9 Georgia

Week 6: none

Week 7: #5 Stanford lost to Utah, #7 Georgia lost to #25 Missouri

2014 season

Week 1: #9 South Carolina lost to #21 Texas A&M

Week 2: #7 Michigan State lost to #3 Oregon, #8 Ohio State lost to Virginia Tech

Week 3: #6 Georgia lost to #24 South Carolina, #9 USC lost to Boston College

#1 lost 0 times
#2 lost 1 times
#3 lost 2 times
#4 lost 1 times
#5 lost 4 times
#6 lost 5 times
#7 lost 2 times
#8 lost 8 times
#9 lost 2 times
#10 lost 3 times

This means in terms of top 10 upset this week over an opponent capable of pulling the upset:

Clemson will not beat Florida State

Washington State will not beat Oregon

Florida has about a 12% chance of beating Alabama

Kansas State has about a 24% chance of beating Auburn

SMU has ZERO chance of beating A&M

Baylor has a BYE

Mississippi State has about a 47% chance of beating LSU

Notre Dame and Ole Miss both have bye weeks
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:11 pm to
That is pretty interesting, why not use a larger sample size?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79819 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

That is pretty interesting, why not use a larger sample size?


I only used the post-realignment numbers.

I can try to go back 5 years total (2010-2014).

2011

Week 1: #3 Oregon lost to #4 LSU

Week 2: None

Week 3: #5 Florida State lost to #1 Oklahoma

Week 4: #8 Texas A&M lost to #7 Oklahoma State

Week 5: #8 Nebraska lost to #7 Wisconsin, #10 South Carolina lost to Auburn

Week 6: None

Week 7: None

2010 season:

Week 1: #10 Virginia Tech lost to #3 Boise State

Week 2: None

Week 3: #9 Iowa lost to #24 Arizona

Week 4: #7 Texas lost to UCLA, #10 Arkansas lost to #1 Alabama

Week 5: #7 Florida lost to #1 Alabama, #9 Stanford lost to #4 Oregon

Week 6: #1 Alabama lost to #19 South Carolina, #9 Arizona lost to Oregon State

Week 7: #1 Ohio State lost to #18 Wisconsin, #5 Nebraska lost to Texas, #10 South Carolina lost to Kentucky

Add

2 losses to #1
0 losses to #2
1 loss to #3
1 loss to #4
3 losses to #5
0 losses to #6
2 losses to #7
2 losses to #8
2 losses to #9
4 loss to #10
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25155 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:28 pm to
From what I have seen I don't think WSU beats Oregon. Not unless Oregon just completely jumps the track in such a way that the rest of the FBS just stands back and watches in a mix of horror and joy as the Duck's season spirals into a Cronenbergish hell.

MSU vs LSU is your best bet for an upset and even then I am not convinced the Bulldogs have the offensive firepower to knock off LSU.

If SMU beats Texas A&M... well we have entered the end of days. I will be too busy going to church six times a day to make fun of the Aggies.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79819 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:31 pm to
Adding that to the 2012-2014 numbers:

#1 lost 2 times
#2 lost 1 times
#3 lost 3 times
#4 lost 2 times
#5 lost 7 times
#6 lost 5 times
#7 lost 4 times
#8 lost 10 times
#9 lost 4 times
#10 lost 7 times

Updating the math, and using an opponent with a chance of winning:

Clemson has a 7% chance of beating Florida State

Washington State has a 3% chance of beating Oregon

Florida has a 10% chance of beating Alabama

West Virginia has a 7% chance of beating Oklahoma

Kansas State has a 23% chance of beating Auburn

SMU has ZERO chance of beating A&M

Baylor has a BYE

Mississippi State has a 33% chance of beating LSU

Notre Dame and Ole Miss both have BYEs
Posted by Kritten
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
1594 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:34 pm to
Don't be #8, got it.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62677 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:39 pm to
How do you get 0 for smu?
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
Member since Dec 2003
2060 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:44 pm to
Auby on the road in a Thursday night game. Okie on the road to BFE west virginia. Oregon on the road to the desert of eastern Washington. I will take one of these 3 having the best chances to be upset this week.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
163964 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Mississippi State has about a 47% chance of beating LSU

If we use the last 22 meetings as a sample size Mississippi State has a 4.5% chance of winning.
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
7730 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:55 pm to
Why are we counting losses to higher ranked teams? (#8 Michigan loses to #2 Alabama)
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79819 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:29 pm to
5/30 = 16.7%, but the math only counts when the opponent has a realistic chance.

SMU is the worst team in FBS by far, their coach just resigned, and their starting QB is injured. Shut out by Baylor and would have been shut out by North Texas were it not for a hail mary on the final play.

Add to that an A&M team coming off a bad game and the chances are miniscule.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79819 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:30 pm to
Correct, but #8 has been the most vulnerable in the first half of the season over the last 5 years.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8503 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:30 pm to
Thanks for gathering this. Very interesting.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37551 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

CGSC Lobotomy


Fairly interesting. But rather than use weeks 1-7 why not use weeks 5-12? Using weeks 5-12 would really tell us something.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79819 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:32 pm to
Anything after week 8 is meaningless, as that's been the first BCS poll.
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