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Would the new guys on the block have played for a title if they stayed

Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:53 pm
In the big12? A&M would have for sure and possibly won, Mizzou might have gone this past year, but I doubt they win. Does that kind of piss y'all off, talking to fans of those schools? Sorry if Germans.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:56 pm to
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Does that kind of piss y'all off

Not even slightly.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:57 pm to
They care more about sticking it to Texas than winning
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:57 pm to
We were a much better team at the end of 2012 than at the beginning, so I don't think it's a given we go undefeated.

But assuming we ran the table in the B12 in 2012, would we have gotten to the BCS championship over Notre Dame and an undefeated Bama? Probably not.

But even if we would have won the championship that one year, being in the SEC is better for us long term.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79974 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:59 pm to
Wir haben diese Frage nicht vor gefragt!

As we have already stated, and even as Loftin stated in his book: As long as Bill Byrne and Mike Sherman were running the show, a 2010 season was our ceiling and a 2009/2011 season was the norm.

Sherman coached scared and the players followed suit. Byrne was a moron when it came to contract negotiations and it showed. If Byrne were still the AD, Sumlin would be at USC now.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:00 pm to
No. A&M needed a jolt only the SEC could provide. When Oklahoma turned down the SEC and the conference turned its sights on A&M, it shook the program out of a slumber.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79974 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:02 pm to
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When Oklahoma turned down the SEC


Link? It's been well documented that, as long as Pickens is alive, Oklahoma isn't going anywhere without Okie Lite.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:04 pm to
Did y'all only change your coach and AD because of the sec? Needed fresh blood entering a new conference?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:06 pm to
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When Oklahoma turned down the SEC and the conference turned its sights on A&M,


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Link? It's been well documented that, as long as Pickens is alive, Oklahoma isn't going anywhere without Okie Lite.



That may have been the reason I'm guessing. Either way, worked out for everyone.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79974 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Did y'all only change your coach and AD because of the sec? Needed fresh blood entering a new conference?


Not the only reason. The three biggest reasons Sherman was fired:

1. 2011 Season results + "no senior leadership" excuse.

2. Losing to t.u. in the final game between the two schools.

3. Publicly and actively complaining about the SEC move

Bill Byrne outright refused to support the move, saying (paraphrased) that A&M needed to be tied to Texas and that A&M wasn't capable of competing in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Did y'all only change your coach and AD because of the sec? Needed fresh blood entering a new conference?



Neither wanted to be in the SEC. Byrne had tried to get us to agree to join UTx in the move to the PAC, while Sherman never wanted to leave the B12. In fact, during the 2011 season, Sherman refused to address the fact that we were moving to the SEC for 2012, and even reportedly bitched out a Regent when an SEC commercial played on the jumbotron.

They just didn't share the same vision, and had they remained, would not have leveraged the advantages the SEC presents.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:13 pm to
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A&M would have for sure


No.

Sherman would still have coached, and Manziel wouldn't have started. Plus, even if Manziel had somehow found his way onto the field, he would have been running the pro style offense instead of the spread which maximized his abilities.
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:14 pm to
Would you want to play Baylor KState IowaSt OkSt every dadarnwnndarn year?

I meant to say damn year but my phone is too stupid to backspace.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:15 pm to
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They care more about sticking it to Texas than winning


This makes exactly zero sense in light of how realignment played out

Do better aggy trolling, pls.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24560 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:16 pm to
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No. A&M needed a jolt only the SEC could provide. When Oklahoma turned down the SEC and the conference turned its sights on A&M, it shook the program out of a slumber.

I like it.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:16 pm to
aTm would have lost to their big brother, so no
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:18 pm to
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In the big12? A&M would have for sure and possibly won, Mizzou might have gone this past year, but I doubt they win. Does that kind of piss y'all off, talking to fans of those schools? Sorry if Germans.


No. Winning in the SEC is twenty fold sweeter than the XII. Plus, Missouri would have never raised their game (in recruiting, coaching and facilities) as a they've had to in the SEC.

It's been a win-win-win as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:18 pm to
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Sherman would still have coached,


Is there a connection between Sherman getting fired and moving to the SEC?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:19 pm to
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aTm would have lost to their big brother, so no


See, now, this is better trollbait.

We'll done, Cockopotamus
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