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re: Should Auburn Have Kept Tuberville, Tennessee Kept Fulmer?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:31 pm to undecided
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:31 pm to undecided
Tubs could have stayed. He loves Auburn. Auburn lives him. His son is a QB for us now.
It has been stated that Tubs had some family matters that needed attending to.
It has been stated that Tubs had some family matters that needed attending to.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:34 pm to undecided
Tuberville needed to go only because he showed more loyalty to assistant coaches than he did to the betterment of the football program. Tony Franklin was not as bad as he looked at Auburn. He had to run into a lot of flack with the other offensive assistants who had run a more pro-style offense for years with Tuberville.
Other than that, no, he should have stayed. Even the tumultuous 2008 was not that bad. If you take out the Alabama and West Virginia games (really just the West Virginia 2nd half), Auburn was around 10 points TOTAL away from being a 9-10 win team. It was just shite year for the ball bouncing Auburn's way.
Other than that, no, he should have stayed. Even the tumultuous 2008 was not that bad. If you take out the Alabama and West Virginia games (really just the West Virginia 2nd half), Auburn was around 10 points TOTAL away from being a 9-10 win team. It was just shite year for the ball bouncing Auburn's way.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:41 pm to undecided
At the time, I thought firing Tubs was a mistake but Auburn has certainly done well enough w/o him with the exception of 2012.
Tenn should NEVER have let Fulmer go. He was not perfect but he was an elite college football coach. They've since found out the hard way that guys like that don't grow on trees.
Tenn should NEVER have let Fulmer go. He was not perfect but he was an elite college football coach. They've since found out the hard way that guys like that don't grow on trees.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:49 pm to undecided
I honestly think Tubberville would kill it at a program that recruits itself or is in an area that is a recruiting hotbed like OU, Texas, USC, Miami, FSU, UF, and UGA. Dont get me wrong AU gets their croots and all, its hard not to with all them fine bagmen and all, but is still a place you gotta put some work into to finish top 10 to top 5 in recruiting and Tubbs was a lazy recruiter from what I heard from Auburn posters on here.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:54 pm to olemc999
Tubs got lazy towards the end and I don't think he could keep up with Saban in the recruiting rankings. That being said, I always liked that he was a good talent evaluater. He could coach up 3* recruits like nobodies business. Would that work in today's SEC? Who knows but Auburn would have taken a huge risk keeping him beyond 2008 in order to find out whether he could or not
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:58 pm to undecided
I mean Auburn has won 1 Natty and played for another since he left so you cant fault the decision to fire him. I remember when Tubbs was at Auburn I thought that AU consistently had the nastiest defense in the conference.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:11 pm to volfan30
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How is it karma when the program that has to cheat to win is rewarded in the end?
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:15 pm to volfan30
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He did the right thing in trying to keep the sport clean, beat Alabama badly throughout his career and won a national title and multiple SEC titles (all while doing it the right way).
I hope to God you don't really believe this shite.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:18 pm to DamnStrong1860
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At the time, I thought firing Tubs was a mistake but Auburn has certainly done well enough w/o him with the exception of 2012.
Tenn should NEVER have let Fulmer go. He was not perfect but he was an elite college football coach. They've since found out the hard way that guys like that don't grow on trees.
If Fulmer is elite, why has everyone passed on him?
Also, the biggest difference between Auburn and Tennessee right now is Auburn would have fired Fulmer in 2005.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:45 am to undecided
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If you listen to Phil now he makes it seem like he just needed time to reinvent himself
They all say this. They all think they can turn it around. No coach ever admits he can't win anymore. I once heard Bobby Bowden say, right before he "retired", something like "I want to get this ship right and leave on a high note and leave it in good hands for the next guy". Paraphrasing here but I remember thinking "and guess what happens if Bowden turns it around"....."why should I retire? We just won the BCS"
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:49 am to StopRobot
saban arrived > Tubs fired > chizik hired > gus hired as OC > natty > chizik fired> gus hired > natty appearance.
saban being hired at bama has resulted in auburn winning 2 SECs, 1 BCS, 1 BCS runner up, 1 heisman, and an offensive savant at the helm. Thank you Saban!
saban being hired at bama has resulted in auburn winning 2 SECs, 1 BCS, 1 BCS runner up, 1 heisman, and an offensive savant at the helm. Thank you Saban!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:00 am to ohiovol
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Fulmer should have been fired after 2005.
I would argue that even this was too late. The SECCG vs LSU in 2001 was the beginning of the end.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:06 am to weagle99
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I think both Tubbs and Auburn were ready to move on.
Tubs just gave up, unfortunately. His last two recruiting classes were absolutely horrible. I think we lost something like 60% of them, which why we were terribly thin in 09 and at a few spots in 2010.
I know there were rumors about health issues with him, but I've never heard anyone go into detail about that. I do have a friend that said he worked with a trainer for the team who told him that there were times in 08 that he had to be reminded of players names that came to his office to talk to him. I don't know if that's a health thing or just throwing in the towel.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:09 am to StringedInstruments
quote:Seemed the norm for Tubs.
Auburn was around 10 points TOTAL away from being a 9-10 win team.
Glad he got canned. Could never get over the hump. 2 visits to Atlanta in 10 years just isn't all that great.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:14 am to autodd03
quote:Since Saban arrived at Bama we have won 2 SEC titles and 1 natty. So Saban doesnt make asses quit, he makes others asses champions
saban arrived > Tubs fired > chizik hired > gus hired as OC > natty > chizik fired> gus hired > natty appearance.
saban being hired at bama has resulted in auburn winning 2 SECs, 1 BCS, 1 BCS runner up, 1 heisman, and an offensive savant at the helm. Thank you Saban!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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So Saban doesnt make asses quit, he makes others asses champions
Viva la Saban
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:44 am to AICrooster
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Now Ole Miss and Cutcliffe...
Yes...this was the real blunder in coaching firings of the last decade. Ole Miss had no excuses here and their general suckitude since is good payback.
Fulmer was done as an effective coach and recruiter, and I think Tuberville had no real desire to stay at Auburn, so I'm ok with those moves.
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