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Talent vs Experience
Posted on 7/27/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/27/14 at 10:52 am
Out of 10 possible points, how would yall weigh talent vs experience in the value of a starter?
Obviously it varies by position, id take talent at RB over experience any day.
Then a position like a DB, experience would be weighted more heavily. We see it too often, young but talented corners and safeties getting lit up.
Obviously it varies by position, id take talent at RB over experience any day.
Then a position like a DB, experience would be weighted more heavily. We see it too often, young but talented corners and safeties getting lit up.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 10:53 am to deeprig9
8 to 2 talent
Posted on 7/27/14 at 10:55 am to deeprig9
Linebackers, defensive backs, and QB I want more experience. Everywhere else, more talent.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 10:55 am to deeprig9
Football: 7 to 3 talent.
Basketball: 6 to 4 talent.
Basketball: 6 to 4 talent.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:00 am to deeprig9
I think experience can even the playing field for sure, Mizzou has proved that over the last 7-8 years. It's not an accident that every year Mizzou has 15-18 starters that are Juniors or higher. Developing players with the physical assets to play football is the key to long term success in my opinion. Relying on Freshmen to step right in and play is asking a lot of a dude with little to no experience, even if he has immense talent.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:01 am to deeprig9
Scrooster had a pretty good thread about this same question a while back iirc. He was also asking to compare coaching as a third component. There were done meaningful responses and stayed a civil thread all the way through.
I'd take about even talent and experience for a QB. Shaw is the perfect example of a guy who kept getting better with more and more experience but wasn't considered very talented when just starting out. Of course then you have guys like JFF with insane talent and no experience coming in to win the hiesman.
I'd take about even talent and experience for a QB. Shaw is the perfect example of a guy who kept getting better with more and more experience but wasn't considered very talented when just starting out. Of course then you have guys like JFF with insane talent and no experience coming in to win the hiesman.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:04 am to CockRocket
I think with more experience JFF would have won more games however. He often got frustrated openly on the field, it was very evident when things were not going his way.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:05 am to CockRocket
Re Shaw, you could say the same about Murray.
Id probably say 60/40 experience on a QB.
Then youve got johnny, cam, winston throw a monkey wrench into it.
Eta- seems like tajh boyd got worse over time.
Id probably say 60/40 experience on a QB.
Then youve got johnny, cam, winston throw a monkey wrench into it.
Eta- seems like tajh boyd got worse over time.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:06 am to deeprig9
65 to 35 talent
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:07 am to TigerCruise
Oh please, he didn't get any more openly frustrated than most competitive guys.
And almost always channeled that frustration into better performances.
And almost always channeled that frustration into better performances.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:39 am to deeprig9
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Out of 10 possible points, how would y'all weigh talent vs experience in the value of a starter?
From a legalistic standpoint I would start experience over raw talent any and every time.
10-0
9-3-2011 example.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 12:52 pm to BarberitosDawg
You'd start brendan douglas over nick chubb?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:36 pm to deeprig9
Good topic, Experience doesn't always out weight talent. See Jake Holland last year at Auburn for example.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:45 pm to deeprig9
With the increasing significance, practices, camps, etc. for High School players, it seems like talent is a far bigger factor in success than experience in modern college football.
Certainly experience is huge, particularly in key positions like LB and QB, but I'd still take a talented player over a more experienced player given the choice.
So? 7-3 ratio I guess?
Certainly experience is huge, particularly in key positions like LB and QB, but I'd still take a talented player over a more experienced player given the choice.
So? 7-3 ratio I guess?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:47 pm to deeprig9
It's funny people mention QB experience with the recent trend of guys lighting it up right away. I'd rather experienced line/inexperienced QB than vice versa. Offensive skill positions it's not as important. Our defense rotates so many people in that usually by the time conference play rolls around, everyone with talent has notched their blade to some extent.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:49 pm to deeprig9
6 to 4 talent
Experience only takes you so far if you have a low ceiling.
Experience only takes you so far if you have a low ceiling.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
Offensive skill positions - 9 to 1 talent to exp
Offensive line - 6 to 4
Defense - 7 to 3, maybe 6-4 in the secondary
One of the most dreaded terms in recent A&M history is "Senior QB". Maybe Bucky was the last good one?
Offensive line - 6 to 4
Defense - 7 to 3, maybe 6-4 in the secondary
One of the most dreaded terms in recent A&M history is "Senior QB". Maybe Bucky was the last good one?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:01 pm to deeprig9
Will Muschamp said he would take talent over experience any day.
Is this a spinoff thread?
]Muschamp: "I'll take talent over experience every time."
My personal opinion on the matter is that, if you want to be successful you learn that you need a team with chemistry.
And all successful coaches know that you have to have just the right mix of Blue Chip and Blue Collar talent in order to get the chemistry right.
Is this a spinoff thread?
]Muschamp: "I'll take talent over experience every time."
My personal opinion on the matter is that, if you want to be successful you learn that you need a team with chemistry.
And all successful coaches know that you have to have just the right mix of Blue Chip and Blue Collar talent in order to get the chemistry right.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:11 pm to scrooster
Agree Rooster.
However, Spur's recent jabs at Saban and recruiting and SECC's would lead me to believe he thinks he could do more with more, if that makes sense.
However, Spur's recent jabs at Saban and recruiting and SECC's would lead me to believe he thinks he could do more with more, if that makes sense.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:14 pm to deeprig9
I think the skill positions need talent more than experience.
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