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Why is it harder to steal recruits from Mississippi when compared to Louisiana?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:57 pm
Why does it seem hard to steal players from the state of Mississippi when compared to the state of Louisiana? Historically, and currently, LSU has been a better program than Mississippi State and Ole Miss. LSU has better facilities, more money (for updated, etc), better coaching, a much more passionate fans, and so forth... Yet, for some reason, it's easier to snag a recruit from the state of Louisiana.
*The following will not list every player, just the more popular players*
In recent years, Alabama and Auburn have been able to snag the likes of Trovon Reed (5*), Greg Robinson (4*), DeAngelo Benton (5*), D'haquille Williams (5*), Eddie Lacy (4*), Darrington Sentimore (4*), Bradley Sylve (4*), Kenny Bell (4*), Landon Collins (5*), Denzell Devall (4*), Tim Williams (4*), RaHeem Falkins (4*), Cam Robinson (5*), Laurence "Hootie" Jones (4*), Cameron Sims (4*) and so forth from the state of Louisiana. However, from the state of Mississippi, Auburn and Alabama have missed on players like CJ Hampton (4*), Tony Connor (4*), Channing Ward (4*), Quay Evans (4*), Nick Brassell (4*) and so forth...
Is this just my judgement because I cover Alabama and Auburn recruiting more closely? Is it because more players have been landed from Louisiana vs Mississippi, possibly because that state is recruited more? Is it because Nick Saban has the roots in Louisiana? Is it because Louisiana has many more quality recruits that they can afford to lose? What do you think?
*The following will not list every player, just the more popular players*
In recent years, Alabama and Auburn have been able to snag the likes of Trovon Reed (5*), Greg Robinson (4*), DeAngelo Benton (5*), D'haquille Williams (5*), Eddie Lacy (4*), Darrington Sentimore (4*), Bradley Sylve (4*), Kenny Bell (4*), Landon Collins (5*), Denzell Devall (4*), Tim Williams (4*), RaHeem Falkins (4*), Cam Robinson (5*), Laurence "Hootie" Jones (4*), Cameron Sims (4*) and so forth from the state of Louisiana. However, from the state of Mississippi, Auburn and Alabama have missed on players like CJ Hampton (4*), Tony Connor (4*), Channing Ward (4*), Quay Evans (4*), Nick Brassell (4*) and so forth...
Is this just my judgement because I cover Alabama and Auburn recruiting more closely? Is it because more players have been landed from Louisiana vs Mississippi, possibly because that state is recruited more? Is it because Nick Saban has the roots in Louisiana? Is it because Louisiana has many more quality recruits that they can afford to lose? What do you think?
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:59 pm to TTsTowel
Mississippi schools pay better.
You know it will be said eventually.
You know it will be said eventually.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:00 pm to TTsTowel
I would say mainly because there are two universities in Miss. compared to Louisiana's one. Also, kids in Mississippi seem to want to stick to their roots more than that off Louisiana. Kids from north Louisiana feel just as much apart of surrounding universities as LSU, while kids in Mississippi are constantly surrounded by MSU and OM fans/alumni.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:01 pm to Bamad
They have the Egg Bowl to play in for the locals. 
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:02 pm to pivey14
quote:Good point.
I would say mainly because there are two universities in Miss. compared to Louisiana's one
Mississippi State and Ole Miss can pretty much split the recruits year in, year out - while LSU has their pick of the lot for the most part (I'm stressing the last part here).
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:05 pm to TTsTowel
Well, I'll get the "_______ didn't have an LSU offer" replies out of the way. I'm not gonna do the research or try to remember them all, just keep in mind that that is part of it.
Another part is that Mississippi has fewer high caliber guys usually, so it's two schools recruit the shite out of them and try to keep them in state. MSU and Ole Miss might just have to go all in for 1 5 star guy, compared to LSU having to appease several some years.
Honestly its just a case by case basis though. Some of these guys grew up watching Saban coach at LSU and like him, not to mention how great of a coach he is anyway. I know some people wanted to leave LA after Katrina. Just depends i guess.
Another part is that Mississippi has fewer high caliber guys usually, so it's two schools recruit the shite out of them and try to keep them in state. MSU and Ole Miss might just have to go all in for 1 5 star guy, compared to LSU having to appease several some years.
Honestly its just a case by case basis though. Some of these guys grew up watching Saban coach at LSU and like him, not to mention how great of a coach he is anyway. I know some people wanted to leave LA after Katrina. Just depends i guess.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:06 pm to TTsTowel
The more backwoods the state, the more difficult it is to get guys to leave. The populations are a lot less transient.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:06 pm to TTsTowel
Double the teams in play for half the number of recruits...
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:08 pm to TTsTowel
Another factor that I missed was that kids now a days like the ability to go into a program and be the man on campus. If you are a 5 star player on OM or MSU's campus, you are the focal point in everyones head on gameday. Kid's are naive and like the attention which makes them being the star at a Mississippi school that much more attractive. But all that can be thrown out the water if a kids sole intention is to win a championship.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:10 pm to pivey14
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Another factor that I missed was that kids now a days like the ability to go into a program and be the man on campus. If you are a 5 star player on OM or MSU's campus, you are the focal point in everyones head on gameday. Kid's are naive and like the attention which makes them being the star as a Mississippi school that much more attractive.
People are going to say I'm "melting" still, but I'm gonna say this: I think in another year, we probably land Speedy. We had so many big targets last year, and he seems like the type to want to be THE guy. Everyone knew the main guy we were after last year was LF. Going by all the shite with his brother, I wouldn't say the same for Gerald Willis though.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:11 pm to NGATiger
That a great point that solidifies my post as well. Look at Speedy, he is the man on campus right now and that's what a lot of fans are talking about.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:12 pm to TTsTowel
Two schools in Mississippi
More talent in Louisiana
Lsu's overbearing compliance department
More talent in Louisiana
Lsu's overbearing compliance department
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:13 pm to TTsTowel
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Why is it harder to steal recruits from Mississippi when compared to Louisiana?
What are you talking about? We pull a recruit or two out of Mississippi pretty much every year. Don't Alabama and Auburn do likewise?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:14 pm to constant cough
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What are you talking about? We pull a recruit or two out of Mississippi pretty much every year. Don't Alabama and Auburn do likewise?
No you don't.
ETA: JUCOs aren't "Mississippi recruits".
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:14 pm to TTsTowel
Playing time.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:15 pm to engie
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Double the teams in play for half the number of recruits...
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:17 pm to engie
Lsu gets a kid out Mississippi probably 2 out of 3 years or 2 out of 4 years. It's not uncommon, but it's not regular.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:18 pm to engie
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No you don't.
Devin Voorhies is a pretty good Mississippi recruit, Jalen Collins came from Mississippi as well. But, yes, generally we stay in Texas and Louisiana.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:19 pm to TTsTowel
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Is it because Louisiana has many more quality recruits that they can afford to lose?
I think it's this. In any given year there will be a number of highly recruited players from the same cities, and they gain some celebrity status, but it's a much more normal occurance than in MS. Some feel the need to go against the grain a little, some (again by virtue of numbers) may legitimately be a better fit somewhere else. As a kid in MS from some small town, it's a HUGE deal to be highly recruited, and often the whole town is involved. It's a lot harder to convince a kid to leave when a whole community is hoping they will represent the state.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:21 pm to NGATiger
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We had so many big targets last year, and he seems like the type to want to be THE guy. Everyone knew the main guy we were after last year was LF.
Speedy has been quoted as saying he didn't want to go to Leonard Fournette University. Prob didn't help that Frank was both's lead recruiter.
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