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"The Kid can't win the big game" ~Colin Cowherd

Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:43 am
Posted by HBTD
Florida
Member since Dec 2009
1141 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:43 am
Murray's lone defender on ESPN jumps off the Kool-ade wagon...

Against Top 10's
1-6
More picks than TD's

How do you defend that? I want to. I really do. But how do I defend that?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:45 am to
Tell him you didn't realize that there is only one player on the team...
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:47 am to
quote:

But how do I defend that


Who do you have to defend it to, is Colin coming to your house later for a roundtable discussion?

The numbers are what they are, you can't change them. I would point out that our defense has let us down in some of these games ('11 SC, '10 AU for instance). All you can do is hope that Murray shows out in future games.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:48 am to
For some real fun figure out this equation, vs top 10 or top 20 teams:
Picks + fumbles - touchdowns
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:51 am to
quote:

For some real fun figure out this equation, vs top 10 or top 20 teams:
Picks + fumbles - touchdowns


How do fumbles/picks such as we saw Sat figure into it? If you are going to count all that, then those factors also need to be taken into account...as in, if the OL blows like it did and allows a guy to blindside, then the fumble can't be AM's fault - or maybe it is in your world...
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:58 am to
QB's get blindsided all the time. Part of the game. But to suggest AM doesn't throw bad INT's and fumble a lot in big games would reflect an incorrect observation imo. I'm sure each pick and fumble had its own unique cause...but the sum total is what it is.
Posted by HBTD
Florida
Member since Dec 2009
1141 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:06 am to
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Who do you have to defend it to, is Colin coming to your house later for a roundtable discussion?


I take the Matt Stafford defense. Must not be the QB...
Posted by HBTD
Florida
Member since Dec 2009
1141 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:07 am to
A better criticism would be that our Coaches can't win the big game...

Murray would be winning MNC's at Bama... No??
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:21 am to
Herbstreitt was right when Murry has that look on his face during a big game he ends up losing.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:26 am to
HBTD, dead on. AM is plenty good. Our big game pant shatting started well before AM and will likely continue after he is gone. There is, however, one common denominator....
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:29 am to


Not this crap again.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:31 am to
Call it like I see it. You feel good about the gameplan UGA trotted out vs Clemson? That was a summers worth of preparation too.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17439 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:34 am to
Well, let's see. If the gameplan was so bad, then we wouldn't have lost by only three. But that would make to much sense for you. There are too many factors: would it have been any different if Gurley wouldn't have sat out the half? Or the penalty issue? To say the gameplan was bad is just stupid...
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:42 am to
Question: your tackles can't hold the edge vs undersized but very fast DE's. you should:
a) go I formation (like our 75 yard TD) base with our freak fullback hammering said undersized DE's and LB's, setting up play action passes, negating the speed rush off the edge; or

b) run a slow developing sprint draw 48 times and when it predictably doesn't work throw on 3rd down.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:45 am to
Not even Joe fricking Montana could have done any better with this fricking oline

Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7895 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:45 am to
Dammit stop posting that.
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 8:46 am to
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How do you defend that? I want to. I really do. But how do I defend that?


It is what it is at this point, and unless the OL improves or we start rolling him out more, it's likely not going to change this year either. Murray is pretty much money when he has time to see the field, and due to his height (6'1 is way, way, generous) it's tough for him to throw screens and slants with any confidence. And we see the result against teams with a pretty strong pass rush.

For all the about the Bama game last year, they didn't have a great pass rush, and Murray skewered them.

If he has to stay in the pocket and get rid of it quick, or if he's hit a few times, well......

How much better do you think you'd do if you were giving up 5 - 6" in height to the OL, and trying to throw over them with Clowney bearing down on you?
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:14 am to
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giving up five to six inches in height to the ol.


And there's the onion. He just doesn't have the physical tools to be a pure pocket passer in my humble opinion. He's a good kid with talent, but he just doesn't have that IT factor to overcome his weaknesses.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:16 am to
Worst thing Erin has going for him is that space in between his ears.
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 9:25 am
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:19 am to
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worse thing erin has going for him is that space between his ears.


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