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Do You Want Your Team To Stop Playing FCS & other Lower Tier Teams?

Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:41 pm
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:41 pm
I heard Herbstriet say something to this effect on Finebaum the other day. He mentioned that with the playoffs coming, teams should be penalized for having such weak OOC opponents

Savanaha State is a 70 1/2 point underdog to FSU this weekend, the largest in CFB history? This is basically a glorified scrimmage.

Auburn plays La Monroe, New Mexico State, and Alabama A & M. Bama is playing Western Kentucky and everyone thinks it's a joke that their players actually think they can win. Why not limit it to lower teir teams in DI but not teams that should not be on the same field

What does the rant think?
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 3:27 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:42 pm to
To do that, you'd also have to penalize FBS teams for acting like a little bitch and refusing to play certain teams...thereby forcing them to schedule FCS or weaker opponents.
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:43 pm to
ideologically you want to say yes because it makes for a bad home schedule and you want bang for your buck when you get those season tickets in

in practice, though, the easy teams are needed to get through a full season with a chance at bigger prizes

necessary evil - the solution seems to be 1 big OOC game a year which a lot of teams have embraced
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:43 pm to
I enjoy games like these. Almost like another bye week.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:43 pm to
I think most of us agree, but this happens because it is so hard to replace last minute changes. Florida State is playing Savannah because West Virginia changed conferences. It's going to be hard to put a policy in place that demands stronger schedules...maybe the selection committee idea will push teams to strengthen the schedules themselves.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:44 pm to
I wouldn't penalize SEC schools, but I would penalize other conferences.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

in practice, though, the easy teams are needed to get through a full season with a chance at bigger prizes


But if this is implemented accross the board, teams couldnt be penalized for not being undefeated because there would be more balanace.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Do You Want Your Team To Stop Playing DII & Lower Tier Teams?


Well, duh.

They are boring and add nothing to the season.

But it makes money for the team and helps to fill out the schedule.

I do appreciate when Skip Bertman tried to at least use in state schools. Win-win for the state and at least mildly more interesting than playing Towson or Idaho.

But in general, I really hate the rent a win games. Would rather have an 8 team playoff with no rent a win regular season games allowed.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:47 pm to
I think those games serve their purpose. It lets the younger players get valuable game experience and it lets you rest some guys who might be a little banged up. Obviously a joke of a conference like the Big East ought to schedule some legit OOC games, but I have no problem with an SEC team scheduling 4 cupcakes.
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

But if this is implemented accross the board, teams couldnt be penalized for not being undefeated because there would be more balanace


well if the superconference ever actually happens that would be one of the added benefits - I don't know tho

schools like the for sure win and the little school likes the pay day
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I hear Herbstriet say something to this effect on Finebaum the other day. He mentioned that with the playoffs coming, teams should be penalized for having such weak OOC opponents

Yeah he wasn't saying this last year when jockeying for Alabama to get in. OK.St. had the harder schedule. :inb4youmadbro:
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16941 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:55 pm to
No. The conference schedule is tuff enough. SEC teams don't get to play teams like Minnesota, Duke, Indiana, and Kansas every week
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I hear Herbstriet say something to this effect on Finebaum the other day. He mentioned that with the playoffs coming, teams should be penalized for having such weak OOC opponents
quote:

Yeah he wasn't saying this last year when jockeying for Alabama to get in. OK.St. had the harder schedule. :inb4youmadbro:







Herbie's issue is that with the new playoff, the committee will look at the OOC opponents when they make their choices for the playoff teams. He thinks playing OOC teams that are sister's of the poor will impact the decisions made by the committee.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11304 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:00 pm to
If the SEC stays with 8 conference games, then that might be a problem. People will throw the 'four cupcake' argument around come selection time.
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:01 pm to
id prefer us play the ole miss types of other conferences vs fcs teams.

Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I do appreciate when Skip Bertman tried to at least use in state schools. Win-win for the state and at least mildly more interesting than playing Towson or Idaho.


I agree with this and appreciate Auburn playing Alabama A & M and Samford, however, this should be the exception and not the rule
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Herbie's issue is that with the new playoff, the committee will look at the OOC opponents when they make their choices for the playoff teams. He thinks playing OOC teams that are sister's of the poor will impact the decisions made by the committee.


I get this part. The rub is that this was one of the reasons the BCS formulas were made. So that opinions wouldn't decide who gets in the championship game. Seeing as how there is now going to be 4 teams selected it remedies it a bit. To me if it is not quantifiable it doesn't mean shite.
Posted by dawginar
Member since Jan 2012
966 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

id prefer us play the ole miss types of other conferences vs fcs teams.





Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:08 pm to
This is the article that made me consider this

It's an interview with the new Sun Belt Commissioner. In it, he states that:

quote:

Benson instead would like to see Sun Belt members schedule non-conference opponents from similar conferences - like Conference USA and the Mountain West - to raise the profile of the league. Instead of sacrificing potential wins for a big pay day, the conference would be more likely to produce undefeated or one-loss teams. Western Kentucky has already adopted a philosophy of one single-game contract per year, and other schools could follow the Hilltoppers lead.


If all of the lower tier DI team implement this, the Power Conference are going to either have to play each other or load up on DII opponents.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 9/7/12 at 2:10 pm to
They are NOT D-II schools that most folks play...

It is
FBC
FCS (App state, Savanah State, Alabama A&M)
D-II would be North Alabama and god knows who else...
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