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Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:03 pm to slayerxing
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:03 pm to slayerxing
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How people can associate with that shite without feeling personally bad about themselves, I just can't fathom.
i think it's really the QAnon folks. they're believing a potential Tom Clancy novel. the others aren't so bad.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:30 pm to finchmeister08
To be fair, would be a good tom clancy read.
But it's total fantasy land bull shite and it's so loud and obnoxious it drowns out legitimate debate on anything.
But it's total fantasy land bull shite and it's so loud and obnoxious it drowns out legitimate debate on anything.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:55 pm to finchmeister08
I'll only say this -
If you work with population data for a living and have taken the time to look at the numbers behind 2020's voting patterns, it's hard to not think that anyone who thinks "explain to me how Sleepy Joe got so many votes" is a winning argument that he or she has AT BEST come to fear the Democratic party to the point of psychosis and also convinced themselves that this level of paranoia over them is so commonplace as to be the only rational explanation. There is simply only one parsimonious, obvious explanation, and voting conspiracy theories leave far more unexplained questions than does Biden's having legitimately won the election. Even having to type that last sentence feels absurd.
I'm also willing to bet one does not have to have my particular career or background to have reached the same conclusion.
Finally, aside from a complete reversal of the burden of proof - one that has historically led to everything from blacklisting to witch burnings when used as method of discerning truth- if you are a person who believes the election is stolen, there will be no proof to convince you otherwise. You've already decided, apriori, that the election was stolen. Any evidence to the contrary will be dismissed by definition as it does not support what you've already decided, while any accusation which supports this belief will be accepted with all credulity. We've all watched it for two months now, and for me it has been like living in a third-person effect experiment.
However, I don't come here to talk politics; in fact I come here specifically to get away from that. So that is where I'll leave it.
If you work with population data for a living and have taken the time to look at the numbers behind 2020's voting patterns, it's hard to not think that anyone who thinks "explain to me how Sleepy Joe got so many votes" is a winning argument that he or she has AT BEST come to fear the Democratic party to the point of psychosis and also convinced themselves that this level of paranoia over them is so commonplace as to be the only rational explanation. There is simply only one parsimonious, obvious explanation, and voting conspiracy theories leave far more unexplained questions than does Biden's having legitimately won the election. Even having to type that last sentence feels absurd.
I'm also willing to bet one does not have to have my particular career or background to have reached the same conclusion.
Finally, aside from a complete reversal of the burden of proof - one that has historically led to everything from blacklisting to witch burnings when used as method of discerning truth- if you are a person who believes the election is stolen, there will be no proof to convince you otherwise. You've already decided, apriori, that the election was stolen. Any evidence to the contrary will be dismissed by definition as it does not support what you've already decided, while any accusation which supports this belief will be accepted with all credulity. We've all watched it for two months now, and for me it has been like living in a third-person effect experiment.
However, I don't come here to talk politics; in fact I come here specifically to get away from that. So that is where I'll leave it.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 6:12 pm
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