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re: Can this 747 take off?

Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by doliss
Northern VA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:47 pm to
how is this thing 25 pages long now?

If the belt speed matches the wheel speed 1 for 1 but in the opposite direction then the plane would never move in a forward direction, hence not enough airflow across the wings so it can not take off because it is not moving along the x axis

And adding thrust as a forward vector does not count because the wheels only roll forward as a result of that vector. If the forward vector from engine thrust is combined with the equal vector in the opposite direction from the treadmill motion then the net vector is 0
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:57 pm to
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how is this thing 25 pages long now?

B/c this country is full of fricking idiots.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32141 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:35 pm to
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And adding thrust as a forward vector does not count


but it does

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If the forward vector from engine thrust is combined with the equal vector in the opposite direction from the treadmill motion then the net vector is 0


The thrust from the engine and the motion from the treadmill in the opposite direction arent equal though. Thats where you are messing up. The treadmill and the free spinning wheels cancel out allowing the forward thrust from the engines to prevail.

Someone earlier in the thread had a good analogy. If you are on a skateboard on a treadmill, the wheel speed will always equal the treadmill speed and you will stay stationary. If someone hands you a rope while you are on the skateboard, can you pull yourself forward? Of course you can. In that example your arms are the engines/ props and the rope is the air.



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No it can’t. The wheels are the only thing moving in place and there’s no air going over the wings.


Youre wrong too
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 10:37 pm
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