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re: Kelly 3 million at Notre Dame
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:09 am to Rebelinexile
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:09 am to Rebelinexile
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Kelly made 3 million at Notre Dame
This is not accurate.
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:10 am to SidewalkTiger
Lost almost our entire two deep to the portal from a 3 win team because of Pruitt's cheating an an NCAA investigation.
Zero program stability/success since early 2000s. Multiple dumpster fire hires for over a decade before hoop. The list goes on and on.
Zero program stability/success since early 2000s. Multiple dumpster fire hires for over a decade before hoop. The list goes on and on.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:11 am to WhiskeyRiverBlues
Heupel has done a good job at Tenner, I don't know why anyone would dispute that.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:12 am to FooManChoo
He had to completely rebuild the secondary TWICE in two years, it worked once, not so much again. 2024 at least we’ll have the depth, for the first time in his tenure.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:13 am to MetryMauler
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Heupel has done a good job at Tenner, I don't know why anyone would dispute that.
No doubt, and he also put a good defense on the field, unlike most offensive coaches.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:15 am to WhiskeyRiverBlues
We’re gonna finish w the exact same record as Tennessee THIS year, and you’re an extra year removed from your rebuild.
You also lost to Florida who might not even go to a bowl. Maybe pipe down.
You also lost to Florida who might not even go to a bowl. Maybe pipe down.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:17 am to SidewalkTiger
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Nope, he was already at LSU.
Gotcha, I stand corrected
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:25 am to mwade91383
We are doing pretty well this year considering we lost multiple skill position guys to the NFL including the best WR in the country and Hendon Hooker was easily our best QB since Martin or Peyton.
Although Dobbs was great as well, but he played under a bad coach so not really counting astro man, despite being as dynamic as he was.
You get the point lol
Although Dobbs was great as well, but he played under a bad coach so not really counting astro man, despite being as dynamic as he was.
You get the point lol
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:32 am to Rebelinexile
The biggest mistake Kelly has made is having significant success in year one. Fortunately most of the naysayers aren't in any position to cause him and heat on the backside.
Dude is a good coach in a recruiters dreamworld. He will have LSU contending more often than not.
I have always been of the opinion he was a helluva hire. LSU allowing Daniels back in the Bama game after taking one play off after the nature of the hit and Daniels immediate reaction on the field is disturbing....especially given the situation in South Bend where a student was killed at football practice. Kelly may be completely free of blame in both instances but it is not a good look.
Dude is a good coach in a recruiters dreamworld. He will have LSU contending more often than not.
I have always been of the opinion he was a helluva hire. LSU allowing Daniels back in the Bama game after taking one play off after the nature of the hit and Daniels immediate reaction on the field is disturbing....especially given the situation in South Bend where a student was killed at football practice. Kelly may be completely free of blame in both instances but it is not a good look.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:43 am to WhiskeyRiverBlues
So are we, and if we opened our season w the likes of uva we’d be looking even better.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:54 am to Rebelinexile
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Kelly made 3 million at Notre Dame. Do LSU fans think they are getting a fair
return on 10 million ?
Yes. For two years he is fielding a competitive team. Just losing to Saban once and two tries with LSU talent, the sky is the limit for LSU football.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:56 am to Rebelinexile
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Kelly made 3 million at Notre Dame
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:01 am to Rebelinexile
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:04 am to Rebelinexile
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Kelly made 3 million at Notre Dame. Do LSU fans think they are getting a fair return on 10 million ?
BKs total compensation was not published. Not sure what he made to be honest
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:07 am to GetmorewithLes
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BKs total compensation was not published. Not sure what he made to be honest
10 years, $95 mil
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:08 am to Rebelinexile
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Do LSU fans think they are getting a fair return on 10 million ?
Honestly, no. He made a stupid arse decision not running JD5 for the first down on the turnover on down in the 1st quarter and that decision caused a 14 point swing. Then he trots Daniels back out there after he obviously got hurt. He’s got a hell of a class coming in next year and a chance to have another really great offense, but he’s got to get rid of House. Stupid arse decision not to put a QB spy on Milroe when it was obvious that was the right decision to everyone. It’s infuriating to watch.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:14 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Checking 247sports (I'm open to seeing a different analysis as this was the first I clicked on) list of transfer portal winners, it seems like LSU did better in pulling players in 2023 than they did in 2022, at least in terms of points. SI.com even listed LSU as one of the "winners" of the 2023 portal transfers.
I realize you probably don't understand this since Georgia doesn't rely on the portal but it isn't exactly chock full of star caliber players.
Almost all of the portal guys they took in year one were decent to good.
Only like one or two were even decent in year two, such is the challenge with using the portal.
It seems to me that you're saying that BK had better players available in 2022 than he did in 2023, which is why he was able to guide them to a SCCG appearance last season but not this season. The numbers are saying something different, though.
LSU also had the #6 overall recruiting class for 2023. While granting that they are freshman this season, it seems that BK is taking advantage of what's available to him but not delivering the same sort of results as he had in year one, even though Daniels has developed into a Heisman-caliber player.
So again, I don't think the "complete rebuild" is going to cut it this year like it did last year, and even so, BK has the benefit of the transfer portal that teams in years past didn't have.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:18 am to Rebelinexile
Honestly I think next year is his prove it year. Year 1 was unexpected and I think showed he has the ability to win here, but I was hoping for 7-5 year 1.
Year 2 I wanted 9-3, which can still happen but I suspect we drop at least 1 more game. If he starts playing the freshmen to get game experience I don’t mind going 7-5/8-4 again.
Year 3 needs to be another step up. 10 win floor, anything else and he is beginning to underperform. It’ll be hard considering we will have a new starting QB though.
If by year 4 he isn’t at 10/11 wins, he will never get it done and we should begin to look elsewhere/figure out buyouts, etc.
Year 2 I wanted 9-3, which can still happen but I suspect we drop at least 1 more game. If he starts playing the freshmen to get game experience I don’t mind going 7-5/8-4 again.
Year 3 needs to be another step up. 10 win floor, anything else and he is beginning to underperform. It’ll be hard considering we will have a new starting QB though.
If by year 4 he isn’t at 10/11 wins, he will never get it done and we should begin to look elsewhere/figure out buyouts, etc.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:44 am to FooManChoo
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Checking 247sports (I'm open to seeing a different analysis as this was the first I clicked on) list of transfer portal winners, it seems like LSU did better in pulling players in 2023 than they did in 2022, at least in terms of points. SI.com even listed LSU as one of the "winners" of the 2023 portal transfers.
It seems to me that you're saying that BK had better players available in 2022 than he did in 2023, which is why he was able to guide them to a SCCG appearance last season but not this season. The numbers are saying something different, though.
LSU also had the #6 overall recruiting class for 2023. While granting that they are freshman this season, it seems that BK is taking advantage of what's available to him but not delivering the same sort of results as he had in year one, even though Daniels has developed into a Heisman-caliber player.
So again, I don't think the "complete rebuild" is going to cut it this year like it did last year, and even so, BK has the benefit of the transfer portal that teams in years past didn't have.
You can't paint the portal as a net positive because it takes players just as much as it gives them.
And again, it isn't like the portal is chock full of "great players."
A player is either in the portal because he couldn't get playing time at his previous school, he is moving up from a competition level standpoint, or he's a problem.
No one is rebuilding a roster in a year or two through the portal and doing any better than BK is currently.
As for the portal class ranking, a lot of those players aren't even available right now. Denver Harris was a 5 star, he's barely contributed because of disciplinary issues. Duce Chestnut has basically left the team. JK Johnson was lost to injury before the season even started. Zy Alexander was lost to injury in the Auburn game.
Just because a player looks good in recruiting rankings doesn't mean he's necessarily great.
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